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IC : Web boards : BDSM Activism : "Michelle - Woman E Pro Domme?"
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Michelle - Woman E Pro Domme? (77)

27 Jul 08, 11:04 AM
MsSlide
UK, 8 yrs£
*Ms Slide wades in, probably rather foolishly, with this*

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27 Jul 08, 2:30 PM
DarkLordDredd
UK(NG), 6 yrs 
Auda_abu_Tayi wrote:
MsSlide wrote:
*Ms Slide wades in, probably rather foolishly, with this*

Sorry to shoot down your conspiracy theory, but had the NOTW attempted to blackmail Mr & Mrs E over Mr E's employment with MI5, the individuals concerned would have been dragged off to Paddington Green pretty sharpish for some rather non-consensual interrogation role play.

Outing a member of the security services is subject to a standing D Notice.

The penalty for blackmail is up to 12 years imprisonment.

Further offences would probably have been committed under the Official Secrets Act.

Look at the history of security service staff being compromised or compromising themselves - the rain of bricks from the establishment is better measured in megatons than tons.

It's one of the few thing they never compromise on.

It certainly seems likely that they threatened to out Mrs E over the follow-up interview, to place her photo in the paper. I'm not sure if at that point Mr E had lost his job or not, but I don't recall that the threat (as described in Judge Eady's summation) was to place Mr E's photo or either of their full names.

Understandably - I think I detect rose coloured specs in relation to how you view your peers. Just because it's beyond your comprehension that you would ever behave that way - it doesn't necessarily apply to all pro-dommes. In all professions there will be good and bad.

It's much like Harold Shipman - his colleagues couldn't comprehend that one of their own could be such a wrong 'un.

There is reputed to be a long standing agreement between the British media and the security services that if any investigations reveal information that would compromise anyone working with the security services that it is passed on immediately and sat on until either a D notice is issued or the green light is shown.

As this doesn't seem to cover spouses/family/friends etc then the NoTW could get away with reporting a genuine public interest story. As it seems that the NoTW were less than candid with the husbands involve ment I personally wonder if Paddington Green is somewhere the Thurlbeck & Myler may find themselves spending time soon?

27 Jul 08, 3:39 PM
lisal
5 yrs 
Littleboots wrote:
Alan_BStard wrote:
Misssy wrote:
Woman E outed me too.

She's outed someone before!?! That's news to me. I loathed her with a passion anyway, and the Sky interview has done nothing to change that.

Surely there's hope for more litigation either against her or against the notw, either from MM or other victims of the notw's outings.

Edit: You're probably one of Women A-D, in which case I do think you have a case.

I've posted this elsewhere, but I'll put you straight on a couple of points:

Missy was not outed before Mosely, she was outed AFTER the NotW ran their first MM story.

Missy is not one of the women involved in the MM case - she had nothing whatsoever to do with that case. Her outing was entirely malicious, whether mistress E was pressurised by the NotW is somewhat immaterial - she threw Missy to the NotW lions.

So, as someone who is trying to catch up with this story

How exactly did Woman E out Missy - and who to?

27 Jul 08, 3:55 PM
MistressLadyAnna*
UK(BD), 2 yrs£
lisal wrote:
Littleboots wrote:
Alan_BStard wrote:
Misssy wrote:
Woman E outed me too.

She's outed someone before!?! That's news to me. I loathed her with a passion anyway, and the Sky interview has done nothing to change that.

Surely there's hope for more litigation either against her or against the notw, either from MM or other victims of the notw's outings.

Edit: You're probably one of Women A-D, in which case I do think you have a case.

I've posted this elsewhere, but I'll put you straight on a couple of points:

Missy was not outed before Mosely, she was outed AFTER the NotW ran their first MM story.

Missy is not one of the women involved in the MM case - she had nothing whatsoever to do with that case. Her outing was entirely malicious, whether mistress E was pressurised by the NotW is somewhat immaterial - she threw Missy to the NotW lions.

So, as someone who is trying to catch up with this story

How exactly did Woman E out Missy - and who to?

She was outed AFTER? Then wouldn't we all know about it seeing as every single Moseley or BDSM story has been linked to Activism?

"If no sexual offence is being committed it seems very odd indeed that there should be an offence for having an image of something which was not an offence," Lord Wallace of Tankerness
http://www.ladyanna.co.uk/

27 Jul 08, 4:23 PM
Tanos*
UK(M), 10 yrs 
http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/boards/activism...

Regards,

Tanos

www.tanos.org.uk

27 Jul 08, 4:26 PM
Littleboots*
UK(CB), 2 yrs 
Tanos wrote:
http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/boards/activism...

Regards,

Tanos

Thank you.

A dirty mind is a joy for life. :-p

27 Jul 08, 4:31 PM
DDDDom
3 yrs 
Littleboots wrote:
Tanos wrote:
http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/boards/activism...

Regards,

Tanos

Thank you.

Yes - this is the problem - people in the teaching sector are finished careerwise if they are outed - more so than any other sector because of the links with duty of care etc. It shouldn't matter one jot what you do in your personal life but the powers are there to diminish you and take your job away.

You may be a commensurate professional and it has flip all to do with your professionalism but once the link is made you are finished. Only when the value system that sees your proclivities as trivial in the face of what you do in public is established will we be able to move on.

But it is interesting that outing seems to have to occur within the "community" for it to be made manifest to the papers...

27 Jul 08, 4:34 PM
lisal
5 yrs 
Littleboots wrote:
Tanos wrote:
http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/boards/activism...

Regards,

Tanos

Thank you.

Thanks both of you

Can I ask how we know it was "Woman E" who did this?

ETA This is defo not a go at anyone but it's interesting to know whether or not (and why) MM was a one off. Especially as there are suggestions that it may be part of a wider conspiracy involving Formula 1

My sympathies are with anyone who has been outed - professional or not

Edited 27 Jul 08, 4:40 PM by lisal

27 Jul 08, 5:09 PM
MistressLadyAnna*
UK(BD), 2 yrs£
Littleboots wrote:
Tanos wrote:
http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/boards/activism...

Regards,

Tanos

Thank you.

I remember the outing itself. I don't see anything that says it was E that did the outing or how or why. I'm either missing something or people are putting 2 and 2 together to make 5.

"If no sexual offence is being committed it seems very odd indeed that there should be an offence for having an image of something which was not an offence," Lord Wallace of Tankerness
http://www.ladyanna.co.uk/

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