speak out about BDSM - updated with BBC link (30)

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Sun 13 Jul 08, 11:14 AM
backlash_uk
UK, 2 yrs
We have an unprecedented opportunity to discuss the issues we face as a BDSMers.
Of course, many of you don't want to.
Others are scared about talking to a journalist.
But all of you (that want to) can write anonymously on the comment boards of the papers.

Edited Mon 14 Jul 08, 5:19 PM by backlash_uk

13 Jul 08, 11:17 AM
backlash_uk
UK, 2 yrs
Here's one:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xm...
and here's one on the BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7504758.stm
Edited 14 Jul 08, 5:19 PM by backlash_uk

13 Jul 08, 11:23 AM
Pierced_Knight
UK, 2 yrs

backlash_uk wrote:
speak out about BDSM
all of you (that want to) can write anonymously onthe comment boards of the pap.ers
I think that this is a VERY important point.
This post should be brought up EVERY time a negative OR positive article is written in the papers, alongside a link to the 'Reader's Comments' webpage. It would then be the moral responsibility for anyone here who gives a damn to write a well informed comment, as opposed to a 'This article is shit' comment.
People fear the unknown. It is the responsibility of those that have knowledge to share it with those that do not.
Regards,
Pierced Knight.

"I'm just a bloody normal bloke. A normal bloke who likes a bit of torture" Mark Brandon 'Chopper' Read.
Educate to Liberate! Liberation through Education!
"ci, jian, bugan wei tianxia xian"

13 Jul 08, 11:24 AM
The_Inner_Whore
UK(E), 3 yrs Some of the replies on that Telegraph article are priceless gems:
"We all know what he does is perverted and wrong. But because of political correctness and the collapse of the Christian tradition in the UK, we lack the language to say why. "-> I'm sure English would be a good start.
"(an aged married man engaging in SM Sex with a group of prostitues) leaves us mute - its wrong, but we don't know why." -> No need to add more.
And last, but no least:
"GOOGLE ARE FILMING YOU AS I WRITE THIS ..THAT IS MORE WORRYING."
-> Oh yes! the prospect of a video of yours truly picking my nose while typing all over YouTube a reply is horrifying

Cultivate your inner whore
Edited 13 Jul 08, 11:27 AM by The_Inner_Whore

13 Jul 08, 11:37 AM
wonderer
UK, 2 yrs

Thanks for the link. I've posted a comment - not yet published.

13 Jul 08, 12:38 PM
northernboiandy
UK, 6 yrs hahaha - those quotes are priceless

13 Jul 08, 1:12 PM
lady_kayleigh
UK(SE), 2 yrs

Master_Craftsman wrote:
Really? Isn't the myth that they get a council flat, etc if they have a baby?
So don't the contraceptives, 'morning after' pills or abortions work?
Oh damn. And there was me thinking I'd get a flat when buying a morning after pill
taking a break

13 Jul 08, 1:32 PM
Attitude_Adjuster
UK(M), 2 yrs

Master_Craftsman wrote:
Really? Isn't the myth that they get a council flat, etc if they have a baby?
So don't the contraceptives, 'morning after' pills or abortions work?
Noit sure what your driving at. Local Authorities are legally obligated to provide housing for certain groups of people, including those with children. If you think that's stupid, then really try to think of the consequences of it not being that way. In most areas there is enough housing stock to make that possible, though the losers are the deprioritised social groups rather than the tax payer.

And all men kill the thing they love, By all let this be heard, Some do it with a bitter look, Some with a flattering word, The coward does it with a kiss, The brave man with a sword!

13 Jul 08, 1:33 PM
Cagoulion
UK, 4 yrs
Y! This is the Telegraph. some of their readers belive that kind of thing......... Different strokes etc.. The article is very supportive and a good omen if there are elements in the press who see the issue as liberty versus prohibition which is the ultimate choice for the nation.
Interesting that the press pretty much ignored the liberty by-election fought by David Davis (presumably on orders from the boss) but are less willing to defend the NoTW!

13 Jul 08, 1:34 PM
lady_kayleigh
UK(SE), 2 yrs
On a more serious note:
Those of us who can live their BDSM side openly and feel comfortable doing so should do it in my opinion. "Speaking out" doesn't have to involve words, sometimes words can't really express what we are and feel, can they? It is a good idea for those who can't be open to write comments though.
What I don't like about most comments, is that they show an extreme side. What I want personally is very extreme. But then again for me it is normal. Writing about it though would only sound extreme, people wouldn't "feel" how normal it is for me.
For me personally the best way to "speak out" is to live it openly. Men sitting on the floor at my feet. Kissing my boots. Doing what I want. Yes in public, I don't mind that, never have. I will even lead a sub around Covent Garden on a leash soon - we already planned to do it, but I was in bed with fever.
It is a part of me and that is my way to speak out.
taking a break

13 Jul 08, 2:03 PM
striped1
UK, 7 yrs

Master_Craftsman wrote:

Gauthaur wrote:

Master_Craftsman wrote:
Really? Isn't the myth that they get a council flat, etc if they have a baby?
So don't the contraceptives, 'morning after' pills or abortions work?
Not sure what you're driving at. Local Authorities are legally obliged to provide housing for certain groups of people, including those with children. If you think that's stupid, then really try to think of the consequences of it not being that way. In most areas there is enough housing stock to make that possible, though the losers are the deprioritised social groups rather than the tax payer.
Then let me explain: his comments just do not make logical sense, even in the topsy-turvy world of many Telegraph readers.
First he complained about girls as young as 11 allegedly being given contraceptives, 'morning after' pills and abortions, then he complained about them being given council houses and a weekly cheque from the state.
But if the contraceptives, 'morning after' pills or abortions worked - and it is difficult to understand how that combination would not work - then the unmarried mothers wouldn't have babies and hence would not "qualify" for free council housing, weekly cheques from the state or free luxury holidays at Butlins or whatever else they are said to claim.
You are expecting the green ink brigade to think logically? Aren't you being a tad unrealistic in your expectations there?
"It's too orangey for crows."

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