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30 Jun 08, 8:59 PM
Madame_Jude
UK(ME), 4 yrs
Surely the terms 'Master' and 'slave' are relative terms - relative to each other. You can't have one without the other. You can also adopt both roles in relationship to others, be slave to one person and Master to another.

And this can only happen if a person is a switch!

Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow – anon

30 Jun 08, 9:07 PM
Lockey
UK(NW), 4 yrs

Jahc99 wrote:

Ah yes, but!

There is a debate as to whether switch is actually an orientation, or just the ability to do both of the other ones. And I suspect that, since switchey peeps are cussed bloody infernal critters defying definition, that one will be true for some, and the other for others, and many more won't give a hoot and just get on with it.

psycheee wrote:

Jach99, i know you love your switching, but i think you have to accept it does have some limitations!

My tuppence

I personally don't describe myself as Master or Slave, for the simple reason that these terms, for all that they are subjective, have fairly commonly agreed and clear meanings that don't apply to me in the way that many on here understand them. I accept that by some definitions, it is rare to find switch Masters, or slaves.

In a relationship, I prefer the correct term of address when topping. If that is a problem it gets negotiated, straight away. When subbing,the domme may call me whatever she wants. I have been called a slave by others many, many times. If I fit their definition, fine. I don't assume that I will.

The limitations of switching? Hmm, nope. My limits are my limits, sub and top. I'll go harder and further into the sub role than the top role. That's just me, not an intrinsic limitation of being switchy. It is not impossible that I'm "more sub" than some who describe them selves as "just" sub, and a better dom than some people who describe themselves as such.

My concern is being accused, or even being guilty of, misrepresentation - and so I go easy on the "depth" of the labels I ascribe myself.

This is one for individuals. Ultimately, if you label yourself in a way that you can't live up to, you have to expect problems down the line.

30 Jun 08, 9:13 PM
Jahc99
UK, 5 yrs
Deviante wrote:
Surely the terms 'Master' and 'slave' are relative terms - relative to each other. You can't have one without the other. You can also adopt both roles in relationship to others, be slave to one person and Master to another.

And this can only happen if a person is a switch!

I would like to hear from more of the peeps into the M/s dynamic - and I do hope they don't mind us making a switchfest of it, for I do understand that it means a lot to some folks, and there is no disrespect intended. Input from people with different perspectives is very welcome, of course.

30 Jun 08, 9:29 PM
Original_Rebel
UK(CT), 10 yrs

Jahc99 wrote:

Have you seen the 'switching off' thread I started? It's a bit of a bastard of a question...

Posted on it ;)

Owned and very happy about it :)
"No wise man ever wished to be younger." Jonathan Swift Irish essayist, novelist, & satirist (1667 - 1745)

30 Jun 08, 9:51 PM
Miss_Skelpie
UK(ML), 8 yrs
psycheee wrote:
Miss_Skelpie wrote:
Limitations! Pah!

ya ya.

and it would be limiting the sun's power to say the moon lights up the night.

labels mean nothing to anyone but something to everyone.

submission is a gift.

*sigh*

And we're only limited by our imaginations.

Be whatever you want to be, and enjoy.

Whatever you dream you can do begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. Begin it now. Goethe

30 Jun 08, 10:40 PM
shit_sub
UK(W), 5 yrs
*rolls eyes*
30 Jun 08, 10:44 PM
Jahc99
UK, 5 yrs
psycheee wrote:
*rolls eyes*

Starting to get the idea, then?

We are not limited by anything other than ourselves, and the world around us. And that goes for all, dom, sub, M/s, switch, pony, puppy or Clanger.

People first. Well, after the Clanger, obviously.

1 Jul 08, 12:17 AM
Mr_Magpie
UK, 10 yrs

Ooh... I thought this was about Isolators for motor vehicles... :-p
1 Jul 08, 2:07 AM
Jahc99
UK, 5 yrs
fizzylittletiger wrote:

Explaining switchcraft to those who cant get their heads round it is exhusting...

Though there is a perverse satisfaction in ramming it down their throats, don't you think?

1 Jul 08, 5:08 AM
Agent_Cooper
UK(CF), 4 yrs
Switching into the role is dependent so much upon the so many different aspects and facits. I find myself just going with the mood and scene; the other person has a real inpact upon what role you are asigning at that moment. I have found that it is possible to be slave or master in those moments at that time that is what you are! Now yes you are not 24/7 master or slave, but how many non-switchers are actually that, very few people would describe themselves as or wish to be a 24/7 master or slave!

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