Thoughts. Love Or Blissfull Torment? (7)

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Posted by feitheachd on Sun 22 Jun 08, 12:18 AM

In “Venus im Pelz” Sacher-Masoch wrote:

"To love, to be loved, what happiness! And yet how the glamour of this pales in comparison with the tormenting bliss of worshipping a woman who makes a plaything out of us, of being the slave of a beautiful tyrant who treads us pitilessly underfoot."

Isn't this going too far?

Isn't this something only a lunatic would really believe?

Isn't it a rejection of everything we are supposed to strive for?

Isn't it just plain wrong?

So why does my soul cling joyfully to every word?

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22 Jun 08, 3:08 AM
SinPar
US, 8 yrs

feitheachd wrote:
Isn't this going too far?
Isn't this something only a lunatic would really believe?
Isn't it a rejection of everything we are supposed to strive for?
Isn't it just plain wrong?
So why does my soul cling joyfully to every word?

No.
Not always.
It depends on what excites you.
On a steady diet, probably. I don't think that any system in nature can sustain a steady outflow of energy without eventually failing. The question would be-- Are you getting enough back to make it worth it?
Maybe this is one of those things that is more theory than practical reality? Fantasy is hot. Reality may fall more into the "be careful what you wish for" category.
Sin
-- The weak are the most treacherous of us all. They come to the strong and drain them. They are bottomless. They are insatiable. They are always parched and always bitter. They are everyone's concern, and like vampires they suck our life's blood. (Bette Davis)

22 Jun 08, 11:22 AM
feitheachd
UK, 3 yrs
Y!

SinPar wrote:
Maybe this is one of those things that is more theory than practical reality? Fantasy is hot. Reality may fall more into the "be careful what you wish for" category.
Yes, I'm sure you are right, but this is the sort of thing that I'm constantly bumping up against.
I live in hope, and while I do, accept that, for me, an unrealised dream is preferable a dashed one.
"Treat a man as he is and he will remain as he is. Treat a man as he can and should be, and he will become as he can and should be." ::Johann Wolfgang von Goethe::

22 Jun 08, 12:09 PM
TheMarquise
UK, 2 yrs
I like the combination of loving the plaything I trample underfoot. That to me is exquisite.

22 Jun 08, 4:42 PM
SinPar
US, 8 yrs

feitheachd wrote:
I live in hope, and while I do, accept that, for me, an unrealised dream is preferable a dashed one.
Agreed. Generally I've found that for me to plan or hope too much I invariably have hopes dashed. What I've learned is that if I head into a situation I think I'd like *and* remain open to the possibilities it offers- that experience frequently exceeds anything I could have fantasized.
S
-- The weak are the most treacherous of us all. They come to the strong and drain them. They are bottomless. They are insatiable. They are always parched and always bitter. They are everyone's concern, and like vampires they suck our life's blood. (Bette Davis)

22 Jun 08, 9:28 PM
Plinth_For_Her_Feet
UK, 7 yrs

TheMarquise wrote:
I like the combination of loving the plaything I trample underfoot. That to me is exquisite.

And all the more so for your plaything.
I AM THE GOD OF HELL-FIRE!.....but its my lunch break right now

3 Jul 08, 8:54 AM
Miss_Namio
UK(BA), 2 yrs

TheMarquise wrote:
I like the combination of loving the plaything I trample underfoot. That to me is exquisite.

Absolutely!
In fact the more the plaything is loved then the further he can be subjected, and the intensity of the 'trampling' is only enhanced by that love. The complete dominance in those times is transformed into a gift of love to the boy who bows down and offers up his submissive soul.
But I am a total N00B feel free to L your As O and flame me

13 Jul 08, 2:15 AM
femsup
UK, 21 mths Sometimes both of you The Marquise and Miss Namio reach the poetic on level terms with Sacher Masoch.


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