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The fear factor (25)

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24 May 08, 11:55 AM
CPeccavi
4 yrs
I only submit when I'm 'made to' and fear makes me space more quickly.

The most powerful weapon on earth is the human soul on fire. ~Ferdinand Foch

24 May 08, 12:54 PM
Miss_Skelpie
UK(ML), 8 yrs
This thread interests me. It made me realise that fear is an integral part of what I enjoy, what I use in my mind-fuckery of a submissive. But I can't use it unless there is trust, and the submissive feels utterly relaxed and safe with me.

There are several types of fear I like to use: the fear during anticipation, fear of what might happen when control is given up to me; the quiet, menacing fear during play, often created using my voice, teasing the sub with what might (or might not) happen to them; and then there is the raw, visceral fear of the pain... I love inflicting pain, and love demonstrating how much worse it could get. And I particularly love making a submissive look into my eyes as I inflict pain on them.

But for me, the sub always has to know that they are actually safe with me and that I care about them. They take the pain for me because they know it arouses me.

Ah, I could float away just thinking about it. Exquisite.

dementia_von_gurth wrote:
i'm not sure about fear .. i have to be relaxed in someones company before i can totally let go ..

so to relax and be scared may be asking a bit much.

but then again being totally at ease with a partner to the point of allowing them the complete freedom to put that fear there could work ...

i guess it is, as with all things, subjective.

Whatever you dream you can do begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. Begin it now. Goethe

28 May 08, 7:03 PM
Mizz_Jme
UK, 4 yrs
I feel the element of surprise a total turn on for both

"Stimulation plus frustration equals service and submission".

28 May 08, 11:25 PM
Nina951
UK(BL), 8 yrs

temperance wrote:
bunuel wrote:
The fear factor

Do others think fear can be a vital component - even just within a scene - of the D/s dynamic?

For me the 'fear factor' is pretty vital, i get off on the adrenaline rush that the percieved fear brings..... if i feel that im too 'safe' then i get complacent, and as such do not get much out of it.....

For myself, I agree with this. I understand others not wanting it but if I'm not scared I get complacent and manipulative. I need to trust the other person to look after me but at the same time fear that He might just not...

There are very, very few people with dark enough minds to scare me and, of those, the majority do not have enough self control for me to trust them. I am really lucky to have found one with the right balance, just hope he doesn't read this!

Nina x

Love who you are (and yes, it's my bum again)

28 May 08, 11:35 PM
Iphis_me
UK(E), 4 yrs

bunuel wrote:
Yes that's the kind of fear I was meaning. Not a sort of deeply unpleasant dread in the pit of your stomach that makes the whole scene a traumatic chore.

More a sort of uneasiness that lets you know you're not in control. That's been relinquished. You can expect the unexpected.

And it's so often a fear induced not so much by shouting or aggression but more quiet, menacing tones... or even silence.

Mmm yes! I've recently been introduced to knife play and the fear factor is definitely a big part of this for me. Even though I don't believe that they mean me harm (if I did I'd be struggling to get away), the fact that someone is holding this potentially lethal weapon to me is scary......and delicious!

"The unexamined life is not worth living"

29 May 08, 12:50 AM
Sorceror
UK(HU), 9 yrs
So that's a menu of one "On your knees bitch" and one "boo" then ?

S....x.

CPeccavi wrote:
I only submit when I'm 'made to' and fear makes me space more quickly.

29 May 08, 1:21 AM
CPeccavi
4 yrs
Can't remember .... subspace messes with me head .... you'd have to ask .... oh .... hang on a minute ....

Sorceror wrote:
So that's a menu of one "On your knees bitch" and one "boo" then ?

S....x.

CPeccavi wrote:
I only submit when I'm 'made to' and fear makes me space more quickly.

The most powerful weapon on earth is the human soul on fire. ~Ferdinand Foch

29 May 08, 1:25 AM
totallycoverme
UK(M), 4 yrs
what i refer to sa "fear in a safe context" is one of my favourite things about being in a scene...it gives me that lovely high that helps me drift off into sub space...the fears nice in how i don't quite know what's coming next and thats why i love roleplay because it hightens that sense of feeling trapped...however i feel safe knowing that one word will take away all that fear if it does get to be too much...

fear in a scene rules..mmmm lush :)

29 May 08, 1:40 AM
pinkylucy
UK(M), 9 yrs


Fear is something delicious and wonderful to me within a loving D/s dynamic. I wouldn't do D/s with someone who I felt genuinely fearful of in a day to day context, but fearing my Mistress in a D/s sense is intoxicating to me.

I enter a state of heightened nervousness as soon as I begin a high protocol scene and as a general rule I prefer to have that confirmed and increased rather than appeased. I want to feel afraid of punishment, afraid of the pain, afraid of messing up and getting it wrong, afraid of being abandoned or dismissed, afraid of when the next strike across my face will come out of the blue, afraid I may not get to come again, afraid I will be tormented beyond my own perceived endurance.... it's all good stuff to me. Bring on the fear!

"Don't Dream It - Be It" - The Rocky Horror Show 1973
Don't allow the images you love to become just a dream - keep opposing the porn bill!

29 May 08, 7:19 AM
kalishakta
4 yrs
Is there a difference between fear and being afraid? Nobody wants to live in fear of something - e.g. going to school - but everyone has been afraid of something - e.g. a teacher -and nothing terrible has happened to them. Being afraid implies authority, respect, consequences for breaking rules, etc. - all things a sub relates to.

Edited 29 May 08, 7:20 AM by kalishakta

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