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How can a spanking be worth £150? (88)

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15 May 08, 7:00 AM
MistressLuzie
UK(CA), 5 yrs
£
maskedsow wrote:
new McDoms for those with little cash get a happy session with a free toy

ROTFL

absolutely spot on... I'm having this image of a highstreet shop....for a spanking lunch time.... wonder what the drive through option might be..

a tart is not just for Christmas

15 May 08, 7:39 AM
brad2006
UK, 9 yrs
maybe its linked to the housing market its what even some dumb fcuk will pay

Poseidon1 wrote:
How can a spanking be worth £150?

Once in a while, as now, I start to really feel in the mood for a serious no nonsense spanking expertly applied by an enthusiastic Domme. Not being in a relationship right now, I decided recently to investigate the pro domme market, and I have to say, I was appalled.

£150 for a spanking/caning/whipping? Outrageous!

Who else gets £150 an hour for their services? Harley Street doctors, barristers, city traders.. . All these people have to spend a long time being trained. (In the case of doctors, 6 years), but how long does it take to become good with a cane? A couple of days?

True, there are overheads, such as premises, clothing, and, of course, good quality canes, but I am still having trouble seeing where that could add up to £150 an hour.

I am not short of a quid or two, but I like to feel I am a canny consumer, and I like to get value for money. I can't see how pro domme services offer that.

I think a fair price would be about £75 for an hour, and at that rate I would make use of a pro at least 4 times a year. Right now, I am giving the commercial whipping sector a miss.

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15 May 08, 8:14 AM
LadyPandoraCP
UK(M), 6 yrs
£
brad2006 wrote:
maybe its linked to the housing market its what even some dumb fcuk will pay

I've always found that Ladies in the scene mostly tend to charge the same rate in the same area.

For example, every now and then someone new will think they're made of gold and charge far more than other Ladies in the same area. Usually, they find they have to drop their prices to be in line with others or else they don't get any custom.

The opposite is also true. Occasionally someone comes along who wants to start a price war. I had a woman who openly declared she didn't like some things I said about her (TO her) and was going to run me off the scene. She started offering cut-price sessions and stated that she wasn't ripping anyone off, unlike me and certain others. However, once she realised (took a while - not the brightest star ;) ) that people weren't listening and that she wasn't getting everyone else's clients running to her, she put her prices up to the same as everyone else's.

As someone else has said (sorry, can't remember your name), barristers charge around £500 per hour; some a lot more. It's a case of supply and demand and those who are good at what they do will always have people who will pay a reasonable amount for their services.

ProDommes provide a service that isn't available on the high street. It's something that is extremely personal to people and it's an inherent part of their psyche. Without it, they are not fulfilled. This is why Dommes with a background in psychology are often among the most successful. It should be available on the NHS, as it is in Russia, where they prescribe a caning to help with depression.

So until someone opens a DommesRUs shop, rational Dommes will charge what they need to. Some people complain online, yes, but the vast majority don't.

Regards, Lady Pandora

Some people say I'm a bitch, that's just not true - I have the heart and soul of a kind and gentle person ... in a jar, on my desk, next to my cane.

15 May 08, 9:51 AM
Mistress_Sapphire_UK
UK(NW), 10 yrs
£
So the OP has investigated the Pro Domme market.....probabley amounts to three phone calls if that. Why does he not get more filming work as his profile states.....then he would get what he wants for free.

Same old story ( yawn) OP been on here for five minutes,no network, slagging off Pro rates etc

My advice, and I don't charge for this.....investigate your local munch/scene, meet real people and just maybe you will get someone to do it for free.

78 replies when I posted.......not bad for a cage rattler!

15 May 08, 10:16 AM
ender11118
UK(W), 7 yrs

Ms_Tytania wrote:
Ms_Tytania wrote:
Ms_Tytania wrote:
ender11118 wrote:

I'm not so sure that that is true. As someone who has paid for school role play I could see female subs paying to attend a school to be taught and delt with by teachers of either sex.

Well, you only have to look around you and see how many male pro-Doms there are, and you'll see what I'm talking about: hardly any.

In theory, it should work, why not? However, real life is usually stranger than fiction...

Do you think that men wouldn't like to use their skills and reputation to make a few bob? I know great, well respected Doms who tried their hand at pro-Doming, but there was no demand and they didn't last. Ladies don't seem very inclined to pay for those services. Why this is, would be the subject for another thread (and it's been done).

humm, well, 3 replies! I would think this was related to the topic as it developed but there you go. I'm sure like 99.9% of things discussed it has been covered before but maybe not by the same people or experiances may have changed.

£150, yes, that does seem like alot to get your bottom smacked but then I don't earn 6 figures. Maybe it's priced to appear 'exclusive' and to attracked 'up market clientel'. Who knows?

Very old saying in sales, 'if you don't ask you don't get'.

Edited 15 May 08, 10:18 AM by ender11118

15 May 08, 11:25 AM
Ms_Tytania
7 yrs
ender11118 wrote:
Ms_Tytania wrote:
Ms_Tytania wrote:
Ms_Tytania wrote:
ender11118 wrote:

I'm not so sure that that is true. As someone who has paid for school role play I could see female subs paying to attend a school to be taught and delt with by teachers of either sex.

Well, you only have to look around you and see how many male pro-Doms there are, and you'll see what I'm talking about: hardly any.

In theory, it should work, why not? However, real life is usually stranger than fiction...

Do you think that men wouldn't like to use their skills and reputation to make a few bob? I know great, well respected Doms who tried their hand at pro-Doming, but there was no demand and they didn't last. Ladies don't seem very inclined to pay for those services. Why this is, would be the subject for another thread (and it's been done).

humm, well, 3 replies! I would think this was related to the topic as it developed but there you go. I'm sure like 99.9% of things discussed it has been covered before but maybe not by the same people or experiances may have changed.

£150, yes, that does seem like alot to get your bottom smacked but then I don't earn 6 figures. Maybe it's priced to appear 'exclusive' and to attracked 'up market clientel'. Who knows?

Very old saying in sales, 'if you don't ask you don't get'.

Lots of people know. Instead of using terms such as "seems" "maybe", etc, why don't you stop speculating about the whats, hows and whys of the scene and get out there? The answers to your questions are far from Secret Society Sworn Secrets. But that'd may prove too disappointing and you prefer to believe in conspiracy theories :)

Cultivate your inner whore

15 May 08, 12:00 PM
ender11118
UK(W), 7 yrs

Ms_Tytania wrote:
ender11118 wrote:
Ms_Tytania wrote:
Ms_Tytania wrote:
Ms_Tytania wrote:
ender11118 wrote:

I'm not so sure that that is true. As someone who has paid for school role play I could see female subs paying to attend a school to be taught and delt with by teachers of either sex.

Well, you only have to look around you and see how many male pro-Doms there are, and you'll see what I'm talking about: hardly any.

In theory, it should work, why not? However, real life is usually stranger than fiction...

Do you think that men wouldn't like to use their skills and reputation to make a few bob? I know great, well respected Doms who tried their hand at pro-Doming, but there was no demand and they didn't last. Ladies don't seem very inclined to pay for those services. Why this is, would be the subject for another thread (and it's been done).

humm, well, 3 replies! I would think this was related to the topic as it developed but there you go. I'm sure like 99.9% of things discussed it has been covered before but maybe not by the same people or experiances may have changed.

£150, yes, that does seem like alot to get your bottom smacked but then I don't earn 6 figures. Maybe it's priced to appear 'exclusive' and to attracked 'up market clientel'. Who knows?

Very old saying in sales, 'if you don't ask you don't get'.

Lots of people know. Instead of using terms such as "seems" "maybe", etc, why don't you stop speculating about the whats, hows and whys of the scene and get out there? The answers to your questions are far from Secret Society Sworn Secrets. But that'd may prove too disappointing and you prefer to believe in conspiracy theories :)

Oh, we meet with enough people into this stuff, just not particuarly interested in large gatherings. Not sure where you get the conspiracy guff from though. As for the rest, well, ment as retorical really.

15 May 08, 2:55 PM
LadyPandoraCP
UK(M), 6 yrs
£
Arctic_Swallow wrote:

Very true, Lady Pandora. I know people, male and female, for whom an occasional spanking or caning is essential for their well being. For them it IS therapy and £150 a time is money very well spent. For them the corporal punishment is the substitute needed for many varied and complex problems from the past. Eventually the need for the CP can lessen and eventually disappear. As with all therapy, if it is done well, in the end it will not be required. The Mistress concerned will lose a client but she will have helped an individual to a complete and happy life. If she is as good as this she will have many more clients queuing to see her.

It's a pity people are stuck on this £150 bit ... most Ladies outside London don't charge that much as their overheads are lower.

I have to disagree that the "need" for CP eventually will disappear ... it's genetic and inherent; it won't ever disappear, although if a person is happy in general then their needs may lessen.

I see one person who is schizophrenic and who uses CP (severe caning) as a way to stop the voices in his head. I have met with his psychiatrist who agrees it is actually more effective than medication ... when the voices tell him to hurt himself, he gets caned (thereby hurting himself) and the voices quiten for a while. When they become unbearable again he simply has another dose of the cane. A very simplistic description for reasons of discretion, but should be enough to give the gist of what I mean.

Now before people jump in, I am NOT citing CP as a cure for schizophrenia - it's not. But, if it helps this chap, then I really don't see what is wrong with that.

Most people with an interest in CP find that, once they have played, the catharsis lasts for a while and their desire to play/look at pics etc. diminishes. When it becomes obsessive again, they have another session.

Regards, Lady Pandora

Some people say I'm a bitch, that's just not true - I have the heart and soul of a kind and gentle person ... in a jar, on my desk, next to my cane.

15 May 08, 6:43 PM
lisal
9 yrs
ender11118 wrote:

£150, yes, that does seem like alot to get your bottom smacked but then I don't earn 6 figures. Maybe it's priced to appear 'exclusive' and to attracked 'up market clientel'. Who knows?

Very old saying in sales, 'if you don't ask you don't get'.

Another old chestnut

Of course there are people who earn lots of money who visit pro dommes. But the majority of us don't - we save, we treat it as our luxury etc etc - if we can

In my case it's my treat to myself - if I earned anywhere near six figures I tell you I'd be sessioning every other day

15 May 08, 6:53 PM
Ms_Tytania
7 yrs
lisal wrote:
ender11118 wrote:

£150, yes, that does seem like alot to get your bottom smacked but then I don't earn 6 figures. Maybe it's priced to appear 'exclusive' and to attracked 'up market clientel'. Who knows?

Very old saying in sales, 'if you don't ask you don't get'.

Another old chestnut

Absolutely. People who see pro-Dommes come from all walks of life. For some, the tribute doesn't make a dent in their finances; others need to save for two months. The only thing they all have in common is a kinky mind. I've sessioned with gentlemen in Savile Row suits and builders in muddy Caterpillar boots. Variety is the spice of life! :)

Cultivate your inner whore

Edited 15 May 08, 7:52 PM by Ms_Tytania

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