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IC : Weblogs : Degenerate : "PRESS RELEASE - yesterday's protest against CJIB"
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PRESS RELEASE - yesterday's protest against CJIB (17)

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Posted by Degenerate* on Thu 8 May 08, 1:22 PM

NEXT ACTION NOTICE IS HERE: http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/weblogs/Degener...

Please feel free to circulate this widely.

PRESS RELEASE-

Yesterday's protest against the CJIB.

Concerned members of the public took their lobbying to the streets yesterday outside the British Library and Houses of Parliament, in advance of the Royal Assent of the Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill

Protestors at the British Library talked to a journalist from Radio 1. Showing her an image from Madonna's book SEX, they talked about how they weren't sure if some posed photographs in Madonna's book might be illegal, due to the vague wording of significant parts of sections 62-64 of the Bill and the lack of clarity about how this law is going to be interpreted in court. One person commented “I can't seek advice from a solicitor every time I look at an erotic image!”. Leaflets were peacefully shared with people entering and leaving the Library while a few protestors moved outside to symbolically burn a page from a book they believe likely to be banned under the new law. http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk217/xjames_... and http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk217/xjames_...

Later the demonstration moved to Parliament Square, where objectors distributed more leaflets and cheered as passing cars honked their horns to show support at their placards being waved. http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk217/xjames_... . Small crowds also gathered as two women staged a pink-fluffy-handcuffing and 'strangulation' on the Parliament railings, as their interpretation of the kind of things the government's definition of 'extreme' might include, were it similarly acted out in a pornographic setting. http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk217/xjames_...

Campaigners believe that it not the Law's business to dictate what images consenting adults may choose to view for the purposes of arousal if no actual crime is taking place in that image, and are surprised the government has made no clear distinction between actual and staged scenarios.

BACKGROUND:

During the House of Lords debate on 30 April, Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer described this move as: “truly the domain of the thought police. These clauses are the state entering the bedrooms and minds of citizens before they commit any crime that involves harm to another human being.” Baroness Howe of Idlicote and others in both Houses of Parliament have called for a Parliamentary Select Committee to be set up to inquire into “New Media and Violence” and consider what changes need to be made to the Criminal Justice Bill before Section 62 is enacted.

See petition about this section here:

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/extreme-images/

Edited Wed 21 May 08, 2:15 PM by Degenerate

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8 May 08, 2:53 PM
Degenerate*
UK(M), 3 yrs
I'm going to add other relevant news pieces as people add them to the site.

BBC RADIO 1 I've that there's lots of quotes from pinkylucy on the Radio 1 website and they are great!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/newsbeat/newsi...

quote from this article:

" “The wording in it is so incredibly vague," says Lucy.

"We want a piece of legislation that is going to catch people who are dangerous but under this you are going to create millions of harmless criminals overnight." "

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THE REGISTER make sure you click to see second page for more.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/08/crime_bi...

quotes include:

(from the article above PAGE TWO - I didnt see this at first! What a quote - we need to spread it around ;)

"Ironically, some support for these calls comes from John Beyer, Director of Mediawatch UK, and supporter of even stricter measures on pornography. "It is important for there to be clear divide between what is legal and what is not. People need to know."

Contrary to the views expressed by protesters, he feels the new law provides that clarity on extreme material. "But there may be a need for an amnesty, during which the public are able to hand in any material that could be considered a crime to possess. The last thing anybody would want is for the police to be raiding people's homes." "

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it's certainly worth keeping checking news sites.

PRESS RELEASE ABOUT YESTERDAY'S ACTION WITH PHOTOS http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/weblogs/Degener...

Edited 8 May 08, 3:03 PM by Degenerate

9 May 08, 1:42 PM
Degenerate*
UK(M), 3 yrs
x_Thunder_x wrote:
A news story inviting comment is on http://current.com/items/88928721_british_law_to...

PRESS RELEASE ABOUT YESTERDAY'S ACTION WITH PHOTOS http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/weblogs/Degener...

Edited 9 May 08, 1:43 PM by Degenerate

9 May 08, 2:10 PM
Degenerate*
UK(M), 3 yrs
Sex Crime 2008

Visual artists and even pop stars could face prosecution under new British legislation, writes John Ozimek

http://www.indexoncensorship.org/?p=375

"Confusion reigns. A barrister with expertise in this area argues that at least one of the images in Madonna's book could pass all three tests set by the new law.

'There has always been a grey area between art and pornography. For the first time, owning a book could land you in jail', she added.

London lawyer John Lovatt, who advises on the Law and sexuality, is not so sure. 'Personally, I do not think Madonna's work would be criminal within the meaning of the new Act."

PRESS RELEASE ABOUT YESTERDAY'S ACTION WITH PHOTOS http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/weblogs/Degener...

Edited 9 May 08, 2:16 PM by Degenerate

9 May 08, 2:11 PM
Degenerate*
UK(M), 3 yrs
Degenerate wrote:
x_Thunder_x wrote:
A news story inviting comment is on http://current.com/items/88928721_british_law_to...

PRESS RELEASE ABOUT YESTERDAY'S ACTION WITH PHOTOS http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/weblogs/Degener...

10 May 08, 12:10 PM
Degenerate*
UK(M), 3 yrs
backlash_uk wrote:
Backlash in the "New Statesman"

http://www.newstatesman.com/200805100003

PRESS RELEASE ABOUT YESTERDAY'S ACTION WITH PHOTOS http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/weblogs/Degener...

10 May 08, 5:45 PM
LifeForce
UK, 2 yrs
Degenerate wrote:
backlash_uk wrote:
Backlash in the "New Statesman"

http://www.newstatesman.com/200805100003

Here is an excellent, brief summary of this obtuse, intrusive and oppressive law by Sean Thomas, excellent, I think, for quickly explaining the issues to anyone new to this debate :-

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/32165,opinion,no-r...

LifeForce

10 May 08, 8:41 PM
Degenerate*
UK(M), 3 yrs
brilliant thanks for adding this.

Backlash: http://www.backlash-uk.org.uk/index.html
Just the facts about the CJIB: http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/boards/activism...

13 May 08, 1:44 PM
alpha_nimrod
UK, 4 yrs
sorry if I am doing this wrong i never post or comment but this seems really important.

under this law that does not care if an act is staged or not will mainstream Hollywood films that are obviously staged but have acts of violent sex or punishment be band. will casino royal have the scene where 007 undergoes genital beating be classed as obscene

will Rob Roy be banned as the hero's(Liam Nielsons) wife is raped by the evil red coat

that cant be right where is this going?

14 May 08, 12:56 PM
Degenerate*
UK(M), 3 yrs
Bizzarely, there are some scenes in mainstream classified films which will be perfectly legal when intact, but could become criminalised when cut from the original film and used for personal enjoyment separately. So this means if you have edited scenes or have copies of scenes taken out from classified movies which would be criminal to possess under this law, you should get rid of them before this law commences. The silliest thing about that is, should you own a film clip of that kind, you can just get rid of that, buy the movie, forward it to the bit you want to watch anyway..!

I cannot comment on those specific films as I have not seen them.

some other useful things to read are below on my signature, the wiki is packed with facts about the cjib and if you visit the activist forum here theres lots of different threads about different aspects of the CJIB.

you can also join http://www.seenoevil.org.uk/phpBB2/ which is a discussion forum dedicated to the part of the CJIB concerning possession of extreme pornography.

De

Sign porn petition (re CJIB & 'extreme images'! http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/extreme-images/
Backlash: http://www.backlash-uk.org.uk/index.html
CJIB Wiki: http://www.seenoevil.org.uk/wiki/index.php/Main_...

14 May 08, 4:03 PM
TheScorpionQueen
UK(CH), 2 yrs
Signed a few days ago, surprised to see only another 60 signed.

You may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing that we call 'failure' is not the falling down, but the staying down.

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