18 Apr 08, 2:16 PM
Chrome_Bitch
7 yrs
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kinky_slut wrote:
Miss_Agro wrote:
no no no...i hav a zapper that was made from a fly swatter
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I've seen them kill flies and spiders, are they safe on people ?
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Well i aint killed a subbie yet and im still livin....no its quite safe Vanishing shadows that glide through the night,Awakened to darkness by a cruel, gentle bite.
Mysterious beings beyond your control,Pray for your life and surrender your soul.
In the depths of our ageless eyes we'll reveal,Raw truths and secrets you fought to conceal.
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18 Apr 08, 2:38 PM
d_scouple
UK(KY), 4 yrs |
Thanks! I have been trying to work out how to adapt the swatter for ages! The Purpose of Life's Journey is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ... Holy Shit!! What a Ride!!!
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18 Apr 08, 2:44 PM
Pierced_Knight
5 yrs |
That is GREAT! I loved the disclaimer...
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Is it safe? I don't know!
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I bought one of those fly swatters recently and was gutted to find that it had a safety mesh around the hurty mesh. Time to get DIY'ing it me thinks.
Regards,
Pierced Knight.
Educate to Liberate! Liberation through Education!
"ci, jian, bugan wei tianxia xian"
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18 Apr 08, 2:51 PM
d_scouple
UK(KY), 4 yrs |
Its not a safety mesh. The two meshes need to touch to make the spark. Tap your knuckle on it hard enough and you will see and feel the spark. Keep it pressed and your sub will soon be squealling! Mwahahahahaha.
Pierced_Knight wrote:
That is GREAT! I loved the disclaimer...
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Is it safe? I don't know!
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I bought one of those fly swatters recently and was gutted to find that it had a safety mesh around the hurty mesh. Time to get DIY'ing it me thinks.
Regards,
Pierced Knight.
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The Purpose of Life's Journey is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ... Holy Shit!! What a Ride!!!
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18 Apr 08, 3:01 PM
birdburdy
UK(NW), 4 yrs
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d_scouple wrote:
Its not a safety mesh. The two meshes need to touch to make the spark. Tap your knuckle on it hard enough and you will see and feel the spark. Keep it pressed and your sub will soon be squealling! Mwahahahahaha.
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It is a safety mesh. The first fly swatters didn't have it, instead every alternate wire was positive/negative. You can to touch to adjacent wires to get a shock.
The new (safer) design is to have a positive mesh and negative grid. When the fly is between them is completes the circuit... and gets cooked.
If you're using it as you say, they about 80% of the electricity actually doesn't go through you, it just gets shorted between the mesh and the grid (think: path of least resistance). |
18 Apr 08, 3:28 PM
MarcusStrapp
UK(CB), 7 yrs
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birdburdy wrote:
If you're using it as you say, they about 80% of the electricity actually doesn't go through you, it just gets shorted between the mesh and the grid (think: path of least resistance).
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And if you use it like I suggest, then 100% of that 1500 volts goes where it's meant to 
d_scouple wrote:
Thanks! I have been trying to work out how to adapt the swatter for ages!
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With the greatest of pleasure!
The Zapper is your friend.
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18 Apr 08, 3:56 PM
birdburdy
UK(NW), 4 yrs
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MarcusStrapp wrote:
birdburdy wrote:
If you're using it as you say, they about 80% of the electricity actually doesn't go through you, it just gets shorted between the mesh and the grid (think: path of least resistance).
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And if you use it like I suggest, then 100% of that 1500 volts goes where it's meant to
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And if I am correct in saying the end capacitor is 330nF (many of them are) then you get about 300mJ of energy and potentially high currents capable of causing burns.
Put a screwdriver across the charged terminals, I reckon you'll notice a little burn mark on the metal.
The only electric shock one can feel, which is generally safe is a static shock. There is not a single recorded instance of death from static shock, although there is one recorded defibrillation from static electricity (and this may have been coincidence).
Static shocks are capacitive discharges, similar to your fly zapper. However the voltage is higher (4000-15000 volts) but the capacitance is much lower: generally 300pF (300*10^-12 F) for a human... it is the capacitance which describes how much current (i.e. how many electrons) is involved in the discharge.
Looking now at the energy of a static shock:
E = 0.5*C*V^2 = 0.5 * 300E-12 * (1E4)^2
= 15 mJ
and that's for a pretty nasty static shock (like the car window ones). |
18 Apr 08, 4:01 PM
teach_me
UK(OL), 5 yrs
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Pierced_Knight wrote:
I bought one of those fly swatters recently and was gutted to find that it had a safety mesh around the hurty mesh. Time to get DIY'ing it me thinks.
Regards,
Pierced Knight.
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/THE-EXECUTIONER-FLY-BUG-WA...
these ones have no guard, bit more expensive though if you have a problem with something i've said or done ........ feel free to tell DM, .......so he can rip the piss out of you too
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18 Apr 08, 4:20 PM
MarcusStrapp
UK(CB), 7 yrs
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birdburdy wrote:
MarcusStrapp wrote:
And if you use it like I suggest, then 100% of that 1500 volts goes where it's meant to
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And if I am correct in saying the end capacitor is 330nF (many of them are) then you get about 300mJ of energy and potentially high currents capable of causing burns.
Put a screwdriver across the charged terminals, I reckon you'll notice a little burn mark on the metal.
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You do indeed! And a beautifully theatrical display it makes too. A bright spark and that delightful electric crackle. Absolutely gains the undivided attention of the victim.
You really only have to charge it up say 1 in 10 times.
After being shocked for the first time, she'll jump every time you poke her with it, whether it is charged up or not More fun cannot be had.
I suppose when I said the Zapper is your friend, I did not necessarily mean that it was everybody's friend. It kind of depends which end you're on
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18 Apr 08, 4:32 PM
MarcusStrapp
UK(CB), 7 yrs
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From the how to Build a Zapper Instructions wrote:
Note: This is not a recomendation. This is a record of my experience. You copy what I have done, you do so at your own risk.
Is it safe?
I don't know! At least I have nothing in the way of hard evidence to say that it is.
Although the Zapper is powered by two AA Batteries (1.5V each) the voltage at the business end is much higher. I put a digital multimeter with hold facility across the terminals and recorded an instantaneous peak voltage of nearly 1,500V!
I would only use this on someone in A1 health. I certainly would not use it on anyone with any heart condition or someone using a pace maker.
my decision to use it is based on lots of trying it out on me, and the fact that the fly swatter is available for sale without any restrictions on the purchaser (such as age). but then, matches are freely available too!
OK SO now for the interesting bit, how does it handle?
It's everything I want it to be! It looks the part. You can't be taken seriously as Master of the Universe when you are waving a fly swatter around. It doesn't matter that this delivers the same result. This looks the business! Those stout shiny protruding pins just scream interrogation by torture. Most of all it delivers that wangy jolt of a shock that makes you jump. It does it with a terrific sense of theatre too. There's a spark and satisfying electric "crack" sound.
How do you use it?
Charge it up (you need to hold down the "on/off" button and the "Safety" button). Go in quick, make contact, then immediately pull back! if you maintain contact with the victim you run the risk of repeat sparking and that will cause burning. a quick contact will cause a spark, but in my experience, provided you avoid sensitive AREAS there is little or no sign of burning.
where can you use it?
so far i have tested it on myself on arms, legs, feet, hands, arse, and lower torso. Personally i would not go anywhere else. as tempting as it is, i'd avoid nipples, and other sensitive bits and bobs. i'd also stay away from the face.
what this delivers, is not nice. you simply do not need to over use it. it's a great head fuck to let someone see it, then blindfold them, shock 'em once, and just prod them with the thing without charging it up! they're going to jump anyway!
Can you turn it up or down?
There is no power setting control BUT, the zapper will internally disharge over 3 second period once you release either of the buttons. i.e. immediately after releasing the buttons a full charge is available, after 3 seconds it has reduced to almost nothing. By charging, releasing the buttons, waiting a second or so before you prod your victim, you can deliver a reduced charge.
Thanks to Nickmorphed for tip regarding internal discharge & use of Euro pins.
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