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| Thu 28 Feb 08, 1:57 PM S_n_M_Steve UK(E), 4 yrs   |
Hi everyone, I have a cupboard in my room, which seemed perfect for setting up for BDSM, however the solution seems to be much harder than I originally thought. If it's up to industry standards then I will eat a hat of your choice, but here is my attempt at a blueprint (or whatever it is called, been a long while since I did this in class). http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cuboard... I would be looking for something which can safely hold the weight of a sub, attached near the top of the cupboard. Ankle height restraints would be nice, but aren't essential. The wood at the top supports the bottom of a smaller cupboard directly above. This ceiling/floor is made of wood, and I would not think it strong enough to support a person's weight. First I thought I could attach chin up bars within the cupboard between the walls, however I'm told the plasterboard wouldn't be strong enough (for "chin ups"). There is also the option of just over door hangers, but that seems to be a huge waste of such a handy, hidden space, as these would be for the outside of the cupboard. There are a few other options I can think of, but I thought it would be worth asking here first to see if I'm overlooking something. Thanks for reading, responses are greatly appreciated. | ||
| 28 Feb 08, 2:09 PM LouiseM UK, 8 yrs |
I'd say not a chance in hell! When a cupboard is built, its only made strong enough to suport its own weight and the weight of the clothes (if your lucky!) When trying to suspend someone i am pretty sure that not even the joists within the ceiling are stong enough. To be safe a plate has to be made and fitted in the loft, although im sure a few have mangaged it and will say its ok. However trying to support someone by the cuboard or by the cupboard above is likey to be inadequate. Louise Going to school does not make a person educated, any more than going to a garage makes a person a car | ||
| 28 Feb 08, 2:20 PM S_n_M_Steve UK(E), 4 yrs |
The thing is two of the walls are still brick, so something like this could be used: http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber... Although that's miles from an ideal solution, it would support someone's weight to do chin ups on it, as I understand it anyway. | ||
| 28 Feb 08, 2:29 PM LouiseM UK, 8 yrs |
That's the point! How long would someone be doing chin ups for? 3 Mins? How long do you want to suspend a sub for? 20 mins, an hour? It's not designed for that purpose. There are too many variables. How can you confirm your fixings into the brick will hold for that long? Can you confirm the brick wall is sound? sorry to be a kill-joy! But you 'could' do someone some damage here Louise. edited for typo's
Going to school does not make a person educated, any more than going to a garage makes a person a car Edited 28 Feb 08, 2:30 PM by LouiseM | ||
| 28 Feb 08, 3:08 PM Abaddon UK, 8 yrs |
i presume your bed has legs on it, have you considered taking the mattress off and upending it so that the two lower legs hold up the frame and the two upper legs about 6 feet off the floor can then be used for restraint. you might want to reinforce the legs a little and attach fixings to the wall so its extra secure but generally beds are designed to support weight for a long period whereas cupboards are designed to support cups. well thats what the dictionary told me anyway
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| 28 Feb 08, 3:30 PM teach_me UK(OL), 6 yrs |
i have an alcove/cupboard space in my bedroom, i put a gate on it, though my bedroom is very gothic anyway, and i dont have to hide stuff, if it goes right to the ceiling, find the joists, and attach some hook bolts straight through them,into the loft using a plate/strip of metal to spread the load..... then you can hook whatever you want to them Wouldn't it be smart to make the sticky stuff on envelopes taste like chocolate? Edited 28 Feb 08, 3:32 PM by teach_me | ||
| 28 Feb 08, 3:41 PM BadWulf UK(TA), 6 yrs |
if you want to get picky here  what sort of hook bolts ..how heavy is the prospective subbie.. a bit of curved mild steel is more than likely to develop fatigue and fail over time. No single point of failure is a good general principle. One I see ignored time n time again even with professionally built stuff. Better bet is to go into the loft. sit some decent sized iron box girders on the joists, drill small hole in ceiling and attach decent quality certified fittings designed to the support , do this in two places and you are sorted with a handy "hammock or hanging basket points) Over engineer massively is basic approach, build summat to support a load of 50 stone or so. Whatever you decide upon use mountaineering quality certified fittings, not cheap but neither is the alternative if what you use fails. John
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| 28 Feb 08, 5:26 PM S_n_M_Steve UK(E), 4 yrs |
Thanks for the advice everybody. Firstly, let me just clarify that I agree, safety is paramount. Right, the problem is the rooms ceiling seems to be made of plasterboard too (it isn't strong whatever it is), above that is about 2 inches of fibre glass, then stuff stored in the loft. In between the stored stuff are wooden beams supporting the roof (which surely must be strong), above those is some sort of plastic cover, above that the roof (I assume, can't actually see it). The beams supporting the roof are in a ^^^ shape. Laying things between these horisontally just seems to be a bad idea, if I was to attach things to the beams themselves that seems a very bad idea too. As the beams will be pulled in a new direction, almost exactly the direction I would pull if I was trying to break them. Wow, they really didn't design my house with BDSM in mind did they?
Edited 28 Feb 08, 5:30 PM by S_n_M_Steve | ||
| 28 Feb 08, 5:42 PM teach_me UK(OL), 6 yrs |
well i was kinda thinking of something designed for the purpose of hanging heavy weights ......... not a bloody cup hook .......i would have thought it was obvious ..... Wouldn't it be smart to make the sticky stuff on envelopes taste like chocolate? | ||
| 28 Feb 08, 5:45 PM teach_me UK(OL), 6 yrs |
those are the ones ..... if you spread the load they will be fine Wouldn't it be smart to make the sticky stuff on envelopes taste like chocolate? | ||
| 1 Mar 08, 6:28 PM ContraBasso UK, 5 yrs |
You have the space and the ideas, perhaps a site visit by a well regarded dungeon furnisher would help. They understand the loads applied, and the support needed to support them. They also have the equipment to help fill the space. Expensive? How much would it cost to re-plaster a ceiling if you pull it down? How much would it hurt you if a sub fell and hurt themselves. Most scenes have an end so that all players can go back to the daily chores and go to work. Several UK clubs have furniture by one specialist or another, Ask a club that you respect who they use for dungeon furniture |
