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For the 1st Time Ever, I Feel Sorry For Male Subs (83)

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8 Feb 08, 12:38 AM
Miss_OL
UK(YO), 6 yrs
rustybar wrote:
MisterBear wrote:
And it's worse if they don't join in on the boards and blogs as you really have nothing to go on other than the kinky image they are trying to portray.

But how important is that really? Do dommes look at a male sub profile and dismiss them as a possibility just because they don't contribute much to blogs and boards? Well isn't that being just as shallow as the subs they complain about who send them poor memos? I haven't contributed much to the blogs and boards before now but I don't see that as something that detracts from my personality or ability to be someone's perfect submissive.

I wouldn't dismiss someone just because they didn't post...I agree that posts do help to get a feel for someone's opinions and can be a reason to chat to them, but I think the problem is when someone doesn't post, has a blank profile and writes a lousy memo too - but then someone like that can't really expect to be taken seriously or receive a reply.

~Put me on a pedestal, but be there to catch me if I fall~

8 Feb 08, 2:05 AM
rustybar
UK(SY), 8 yrs
Miss_OL wrote:
rustybar wrote:
MisterBear wrote:
And it's worse if they don't join in on the boards and blogs as you really have nothing to go on other than the kinky image they are trying to portray.

But how important is that really? Do dommes look at a male sub profile and dismiss them as a possibility just because they don't contribute much to blogs and boards? Well isn't that being just as shallow as the subs they complain about who send them poor memos? I haven't contributed much to the blogs and boards before now but I don't see that as something that detracts from my personality or ability to be someone's perfect submissive.

I wouldn't dismiss someone just because they didn't post...I agree that posts do help to get a feel for someone's opinions and can be a reason to chat to them, but I think the problem is when someone doesn't post, has a blank profile and writes a lousy memo too - but then someone like that can't really expect to be taken seriously or receive a reply.

Yes I totally agree with that. While there may be lots of reasons why someone has a blank profile, if they are proactively looking for someone, have a blank profile and write one line memos then they can't really complain.

8 Feb 08, 1:06 PM
Premo_1
UK(HA), 6 yrs
I've met loads of nice sub dudes who can't find anything near what they want. If a male sub wants to find an attractive, dominant woman and wants an exclusive, monogomous relationship, they're gonna be looking for years as they are pretty much non-existent. How many women really want a submissive partner and to dominate them all the time? Very, very few. Women generally just aren't wired that way, and those that are are very much in the minority. So it's hard not to feel for sub males, in particular the ones looking for a relationship/partner.

A lot of women may enjoy dominating men, and may even take one as their sub, but how many of those would consider an exclusive relationship/sex-life with someone who is purely sub? Even pro-dommes, again many seem to prefer having dominant partners/lovers. Sad for y'all, but true.

I wonder how many couples are out there where the woman is dominant, and the man sub? And I mean where neither of them ever switch, and the woman doesn't have a seperate relationship/boyfriend/dom? Can't be many...

Of course, I could be totally wrong, but that's just my opinion based on what I have seen/heard over the last couple of years.

8 Feb 08, 2:25 PM
Ms_Tytania
7 yrs
Premo_1 wrote:
I've met loads of nice sub dudes who can't find anything near what they want. If a male sub wants to find an attractive, dominant woman and wants an exclusive, monogomous relationship, they're gonna be looking for years as they are pretty much non-existent. How many women really want a submissive partner and to dominate them all the time? Very, very few. Women generally just aren't wired that way, and those that are are very much in the minority. So it's hard not to feel for sub males, in particular the ones looking for a relationship/partner.

A lot of women may enjoy dominating men, and may even take one as their sub, but how many of those would consider an exclusive relationship/sex-life with someone who is purely sub? Even pro-dommes, again many seem to prefer having dominant partners/lovers. Sad for y'all, but true.

I wonder how many couples are out there where the woman is dominant, and the man sub? And I mean where neither of them ever switch, and the woman doesn't have a seperate relationship/boyfriend/dom? Can't be many...

Of course, I could be totally wrong, but that's just my opinion based on what I have seen/heard over the last couple of years.

You may think there are very few women who want to be dominated 24/7 and have no other type of sexuality or interaction with their partner. But they are as few as their male equivalent, so no harm there.

Lots of men tell me they want a Domme as a partner, but those who have the experience, want the vanilla person too, not to live in a D/s fantasy 24/7. The ones who say "I want a Domme 24/7 to be my Mistress and partner", they don't know what they are talking about, because they are of the blank profile, no mates, no experience variety. The ones who can't distinguish fantasy from reality because they haven't any experience. They are also the ones who like coming here to whine and bleat. Let them bleat, I say.

Cultivate your inner whore

8 Feb 08, 2:37 PM
x_zero_x
UK(DD), 10 yrs

Miss_OL wrote:
Ms_Tytania wrote:

And to reply to the OP: yes, I agree that 'single and looking Dommes' are extremely thin on the ground. But so are men who really are, as they claim: sub; unattached; with a decent amount of social skills and RL experience with women; havea half decent haircut... oh, and well endowed to boot! :-p

:-D

for the relatively few genuinely sub and unattached, I agree, it's not easy.

especially those of us in Scotland! :-p

Bite me :-p

8 Feb 08, 2:43 PM
Nekkii
UK(S), 6 yrs

Ms_Tytania wrote:
Lots of men tell me they want a Domme as a partner, but those who have the experience, want the vanilla person too, not to live in a D/s fantasy 24/7. The ones who say "I want a Domme 24/7 to be my Mistress and partner", they don't know what they are talking about, because they are of the blank profile, no mates, no experience variety.

Hmm... I was about to debate that with you, as I thought I could prove you wrong... but on further consideration of what I think you are really saying - you are certainly 100% right. I couldn't say I don't want the 'vanilla person' too really at all. I mean, it may well be "24/7" when it comes to being sexual - but there's still a huge amount of 'normal relationship' there. I don't really see how there couldn't be if its a close partner relationship. No-one can be sexual ALL the time afterall! ;)

8 Feb 08, 2:50 PM
Ms_Tytania
7 yrs
Remy_B wrote:
Ms_Tytania wrote:
Lots of men tell me they want a Domme as a partner, but those who have the experience, want the vanilla person too, not to live in a D/s fantasy 24/7. The ones who say "I want a Domme 24/7 to be my Mistress and partner", they don't know what they are talking about, because they are of the blank profile, no mates, no experience variety.

Hmm... I was about to debate that with you, as I thought I could prove you wrong... but on further consideration of what I think you are really saying - you are certainly 100% right. I couldn't say I don't want the 'vanilla person' too really at all. I mean, it may well be "24/7" when it comes to being sexual - but there's still a huge amount of 'normal relationship' there. I don't really see how there couldn't be if its a close partner relationship. No-one can be sexual ALL the time afterall! ;)

And no one can be the cartoon character 24/7 either. Reality gets in the way. Our little unassuming vanilla selves raise their heads every now and then, they need attention. And if a man isn't interested in my "human" side, what kind of meaningful relationship could we posibly have? I think that's what most of us think when apporached by these Fantasy Hunters.

And that's why I say that those who say they want a Manga Mistress (© Ms Tytania), have obviously very little experience with women and in relationships. Which is another little can of worms: how many so called subs are there, in their 30's, 40's and older, who have no sexual experience or have never been in a relationship... now, that I find scary!

Cultivate your inner whore

8 Feb 08, 3:58 PM
x_zero_x
UK(DD), 10 yrs

Ms_Tytania wrote:
And that's why I say that those who say they want a Manga Mistress (© Ms Tytania), have obviously very little experience with women and in relationships.

i have lots of experience in both and i'd love a Manga Mistress, but since i'm not Manga myself it just wouldn't work out :-p

You do make very good points though.

Bite me :-p

10 Feb 08, 5:33 PM
wolfinsheep
4 yrs
switcheroo1 wrote:
I disagree. I think most of this whining comes from keyboard jockeys too scared/married/insecure/geographically isolated to go to a munch/club. Only one of those conditions is really worthy of pity.

I disagree with the conclusions of quite a few of the answers here. I am 100% unattached, physically capable, friendly, loving and kind. Most of my experiences were dominant from my perspective until I met my mistress. Then Whoosh, I wanted nothing but to serve.

Now sadly I am a newly active munch member, I had a mistress in the process of becoming a pro domme, and I felt everything was sorted. Then I found myself bereft of a mistress, still wanting to serve, and completely unable to find someone willing to even answer emails.

I don't think I whine much, mostly because I am pretty proactive. To the extent that I am trying to organise an unattached perve's night through the local munch.

I am however getting frustrated to the extent that I'm seriously thinking about giving the whole thing up. Which is sad, because I have a high pain enjoyment, and I am incredibly loyal to the right person. I think the bigger issue is that I really want to find an LTR in the real world. Sadly there are too few dommes and too many male subs.

The only other option I see is finding my way BACK into the Dominant role, and just accepting that I can't be the sub that I dream of being.

10 Feb 08, 5:38 PM
PeterPan1972
UK, 8 yrs

dystopia wrote:
Lucifer38 wrote:
SNIP

Not to mention that some dommes may be too old, too young, too big, too small, too blue, support Man Utd, etc etc...

How shocking! There are dommes that support Man Utd? What has this world come to?

The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going, at 66,000 miles an hour, around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.

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