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Is BDSM mainly about disgust? (31)

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26 Dec 07, 7:16 PM
mmutie
UK, 7 yrs
pinkgem wrote:
mmmmutie wrote:
Is BDSM mainly about disgust?

After reading this thread about hard/soft limits, I've been wondering about the role of disgust in BDSM.

Obviously, there are core forms of disgust, which relate to food and body products (my own food dislikes being mayonnaise, tomato sauce and brown sauce *shudder*). There is also moral disgust, which would encompass lots of other BDSM practises. The two forms seemed to intersect, quite neatly, in the 'vegan/vegetarian being instructed to eat meat'-debate.

So, is BDSM, for you, about finding and pressing the disgust buttons (or having those buttons pressed for you)? As players, do you particularly go for one form of disgust over another?

I think you should re-word the question to 'are hard limits, for you, about disgust?'

I had also considered adding to the hard/soft limits thread rather than creating a separate one. I think the reason I didn't (and didn't word it as above) was because I wasn't solely thinking about hard limits.

I was thinking partly about the enjoyment of, apparently unpalatable or dangerous, sensory experiences within BDSM. It feels similar to developing a liking for foods that are, to a degree unpalatable (such as chilli, or pepper), or enjoying rollercoasters.

I was also thinking about disgust in relation to how others see BDSM. For example, a while ago I met a dom who was particularly into giving verbal. At one point he said: "What would your mates say if they could see you now? They'd be f*****g disgusted wouldn't they?". Now, I wasn't doing anything particularly disgusting at that point(well, not to me), but I was well aware that the vanilla perspective could be rather different.

26 Dec 07, 9:12 PM
pinkgem
UK, 6 yrs
I personally do things I like (BDSM or otherwise) because I like them. If they disgust me I don't do them.
26 Dec 07, 9:38 PM
misnomer
UK(EH), 4 yrs
verte wrote:
I've done things that haven't felt right and have disgusted me. Doesn't mean, on some perverse level, that I don't enjoy being forced to do them.

A bunch of my fantasies are like this - though I don't know if they'd necessarily translate to reality - and I was going to bring this up. Surely it's just a kind of psychological masochism?

26 Dec 07, 9:51 PM
redcat
9 yrs
misnomer wrote:
verte wrote:
I've done things that haven't felt right and have disgusted me. Doesn't mean, on some perverse level, that I don't enjoy being forced to do them.

A bunch of my fantasies are like this - though I don't know if they'd necessarily translate to reality - and I was going to bring this up. Surely it's just a kind of psychological masochism?

yes it is a form of masochism and a reason for submission.... just as valid as the getting hit and physical hurty sort... but much less understood and far less palatable to many.

edited to add.... but of course the getting hit bit can involve physical AND psychological masochism.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/objectification_in...
To be without some of the things you want is an indispensable part of happiness. – Bertrand Russel.

Edited 26 Dec 07, 9:52 PM by redcat

26 Dec 07, 11:32 PM
Goldilocks
UK(SE), 5 yrs
mmmmutie wrote:
Is BDSM mainly about disgust? So, is BDSM, for you, about finding and pressing the disgust buttons (or having those buttons pressed for you)?
In short, no, it isn't.

i do think that it can be partly about 'disgust' but also about many other things.

26 Dec 07, 11:35 PM
Needy_Pickle
4 yrs
No, if it truly disgusts me I JUST WON'T DO IT!!!!
26 Dec 07, 11:37 PM
FluffyHotWaterBottle
UK(WC), 4 yrs
mmmmutie wrote:
So, is BDSM, for you, about finding and pressing the disgust buttons (or having those buttons pressed for you)? As players, do you particularly go for one form of disgust over another?

No, not at all.

27 Dec 07, 12:34 AM
Violently
UK(B), 12 yrs
mmmmutie wrote:
So, is BDSM, for you, about finding and pressing the disgust buttons (or having those buttons pressed for you)? As players, do you particularly go for one form of disgust over another?

I would say it is amongst the zillions of things that bdsm is about for me.

It isn't the be all and end all It isn't the core activity around which I centre everything and so on so forth

Someone I know once coined a phrase about a successful sadist being a great self amuser...

Sometimes it is an amusing sort of cruel to subject someone to something that may be thought of as disgusting... and get creative with it. For absolutely no other reason than because I can...

-- A Kervert Pinky

27 Dec 07, 5:59 AM
ideviate
UK(M), 12 yrs

Hmm disgusting? god no not at all, all the things I love are bloody wonderful. Other people might regard them as discusting or perverse but thats their problem! Not mine.

I don't claim to know where my holiness goes - I just know that I like what is starting to show

27 Dec 07, 6:34 AM
newexperiences
UK, 5 yrs
But there is also a power/control dynamic that can be pushed and telling/forcing people to do certain things can be a way of showing the control/submission in the relationship don't you think?

SisterFlaminghair wrote:
I think that a lot of limits are about disgust.

Isn't bdsm about pleasure and ways of relating to a partner?

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