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Subs - Does being a sub change how you argue with your dom? (87)

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27 Dec 07, 3:50 PM
nothing1
UK, 4 yrs
I do find it a difficult thing to manage. As a sub in day-to-day issues i would ask for a little 'time out' to put my point.

On bigger issues it is worse for me because i am an out and out socialist and will stand my corner against anyone in everyday life. Whilst with a Domme (particularly One with conservative views) this becomes difficult. i have been out with One (in a vanilla setting) where She made me agree with everything She said in public (knowing how this made me feel inside).

Of course having a Labour government that aren't really Labour makes it all the more confusing.

27 Dec 07, 5:27 PM
Scribbles
UK(RH), 4 yrs
nothing1 wrote:
I do find it a difficult thing to manage. As a sub in day-to-day issues i would ask for a little 'time out' to put my point.

On bigger issues it is worse for me because i am an out and out socialist and will stand my corner against anyone in everyday life. Whilst with a Domme (particularly One with conservative views) this becomes difficult. i have been out with One (in a vanilla setting) where She made me agree with everything She said in public (knowing how this made me feel inside).

Of course having a Labour government that aren't really Labour makes it all the more confusing.

I note you say this in the past tense! - ie have been out with etc. I think if you deny yourself utterly, you have nothing left to submit. "I am a worthless slut, I submit to you" - "Erm, gee thanks!" If I were Dominant I would *so* much rather have the submission of someone who thought for them selves and not only that valued and expressed it. That said, bickering is different - but grating over trivialities does relationships no good whether D/s or not.

27 Dec 07, 10:56 PM
wonderer
UK, 5 yrs

TheMarquise wrote:

Of course, like me your Mistress might be of a socialist persuasion herself.

Perhaps for another thread, but I'm interested whether there's a perceived conflict between being a socialist and being a Domme. Certain sorts of Domming seem to be more patronising and superior than one would imagine in democratic socialism. Perhaps consensuality is the key.

Ubi caritas et amor, Deus ibi est.

27 Dec 07, 11:15 PM
Xx_pam_xX
4 yrs
Masters_Delight wrote:
Subs - Does being a sub change how you argue with your dom?

What i mean is, when your with your Dom/me and your having an argument do you back down because your the sub or do you argue your point? I dont mean argue in a D/s sense, i mean an everyday niggle /argument that is nothing to do with the D/s dynamic. Does the fact that your a sub deter you from arguing?

Edited to add the word dynamic and change the title coz the first one didnt put across what i meant properly.x

Master and i have have some great fights... bickering mainly, but the ones which aren't done in jest clear the air... crikey if i or puppy just rolled over and submitted all of our views and opinions to him, he would get bored and not think of us in the same light...

we are usually right, which of course is hard for him to accept, but he is big enough to accept it (sometimes)...

**sits and awaits his reply tomorrow**

His_property

27 Dec 07, 11:43 PM
DDDDom
6 yrs
TheMarquise wrote:
wonderer wrote:
TheMarquise wrote:

Of course, like me your Mistress might be of a socialist persuasion herself.

Perhaps for another thread, but I'm interested whether there's a perceived conflict between being a socialist and being a Domme. Certain sorts of Domming seem to be more patronising and superior than one would imagine in democratic socialism. Perhaps consensuality is the key.

Consenuality is the key and the issue will be explored further when I do my talk for the Anarchist Forum next year.

Could we have a reminder link please?

Sex pleasure in woman is a kind of magic spell; it demands complete abandon; if words or movements oppose the magic of caresses, the spell is broken. Simone de Beauvoir

28 Dec 07, 12:35 AM
nothing1
UK, 4 yrs
TheMarquise wrote:
nothing1 wrote:
I do find it a difficult thing to manage. As a sub in day-to-day issues i would ask for a little 'time out' to put my point.

On bigger issues it is worse for me because i am an out and out socialist and will stand my corner against anyone in everyday life. Whilst with a Domme (particularly One with conservative views) this becomes difficult. i have been out with One (in a vanilla setting) where She made me agree with everything She said in public (knowing how this made me feel inside).

Of course having a Labour government that aren't really Labour makes it all the more confusing.

Of course, like me your Mistress might be of a socialist persuasion herself.

Interesting that You say this Marquise. i feel my psyque and my bdsm/sexuality are a complete contradiction of each other.

Hence, although Your 'socialist persuasion' would attract me very much on one level, it would not on the other. Forgive me for saying so, but You have a 'Lady of The manor' Look about You, which would quite easily bring me to my knees. Once there i would happily shine away at Your boots, but at that moment the thought of You sharing my left-wing views would be unwelcome.

i guess for me, in one aspect of life i seek the company of big hearted people, yet on the other a cold heart is key.

28 Dec 07, 12:40 AM
DDDDom
6 yrs
TheMarquise wrote:
DDDDom wrote:
TheMarquise wrote:
wonderer wrote:
TheMarquise wrote:

Of course, like me your Mistress might be of a socialist persuasion herself.

Perhaps for another thread, but I'm interested whether there's a perceived conflict between being a socialist and being a Domme. Certain sorts of Domming seem to be more patronising and superior than one would imagine in democratic socialism. Perhaps consensuality is the key.

Consenuality is the key and the issue will be explored further when I do my talk for the Anarchist Forum next year.

Could we have a reminder link please?

Sure, http://www.eventsandissues.bravehost.com/LAF.html

Thank you - it is now in my diary.

Sex pleasure in woman is a kind of magic spell; it demands complete abandon; if words or movements oppose the magic of caresses, the spell is broken. Simone de Beauvoir

28 Dec 07, 12:54 AM
nothing1
UK, 4 yrs
(The Marquise said) Well then don't think about it while you are down there, you should be concentrating on shining my boots so I can view my reflection in them, not contemplating my political persuasion!

[/quote]

Dare i say it, Your reflection would be well worth the effort of the shine.

28 Dec 07, 8:12 AM
Gate_Keeper
5 yrs
GateKeepers_property wrote:

we are usually right,

*coughs*

yeah right........ only cause I let you... now get some housework done the pair of you..... ;-)

~~~The way to love anything is to realise that it might be lost~~~

Edited 28 Dec 07, 8:17 AM by Gate_Keeper

31 Dec 08, 3:43 PM
saranora
UK(GU), 3 yrs
Well surely the fun in being a bit feisty as a sub is the punishment that follows... ;)

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