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| 20 Dec 07, 11:45 PM ken_knight 9 yrs |
Well, yes, i assumed the black shirt and trousers would be "smart". | |||
| 21 Dec 07, 12:08 AM pinkgem UK, 6 yrs |
Who would be offended by black shirt and trousers? TG is the only place I can think of that definitely wouldn't allow this.
Edited 21 Dec 07, 12:09 AM by pinkgem | |||
| 21 Dec 07, 12:46 AM bohnanza UK(FK), 12 yrs |
Club rules exist for two reasons: 1) Will you follow the rules and 2) Will the club enforce their rules equally? If people aren't prepared to follow the dress code rule maybe they aren't prepared to follow the no touching rule. Similarly if a club doesn't rigidly enforce a dress code rule how well will it enforce a no camera rule? Science, the only religion that works even if you don't believe in it. | |||
| 21 Dec 07, 1:47 AM femsup UK(NW), 5 yrs |
I used to laugh at the adverts in the NME and Sounds etc for clothing for Mods Punks etc.As if by putting on them on you could suddenly be a real punk or mod.The punk ones were particularly ironic in that the entire ethos of punk was supposed to be anti materialistic and here we had the clothes firms shamelessly trying to cash in. Love to see others dress up but also like to see women in ordinary clothes.Their Domme or Sub personality will shine through whether they are in the de rigeur gear or not. To me a Woman wearing a blouse and nothing else with the right demeanor and personality would beat a fetish clone any day. I suppose its a bit about being in a gang and adopting the norms of the gang.But being an individual I don't often follow the herd. | |||
| 21 Dec 07, 6:32 AM newexperiences UK, 5 yrs |
A schoolgirl outfit looks good
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| 21 Dec 07, 8:21 AM DomGrumpy UK(BS), 4 yrs |
I could be wrong but wasnt this person already in the club ? Therefore he had actually 'Passed' the rules of entry ? It was Someones opinion in the club that it 'WASNT' up to their personal standards so they took it on themselves to try to humiliate them ? Maybe ive read the original thread wrong so I will go have another look, but to me if you have got past the Gestapo on the front desk you have a right to be in there and the right not to be verbally attacked for what you are wearing ? | |||
| 21 Dec 07, 8:37 AM proccie UK(HP), 6 yrs |
Er no! Actually I find it very hard to find something that doesn't look typically clichéd and gimp like. If I dress smart and black and leather, then I look like a Dom. I find it very hard to be a sub anyway (masochist yes..) and if I am going to be over powered by a Domme she has to be in control: How can she be in control if she is crippled by an over tight corset and heels she is going to fall off any moment? Not that I would ever dare laugh if that were ever to happen....And someone I know manages to look stunning and dommy in trainers or bare feet. Yes I like Dommes to look stunning, who doesn't, it's the clichés that get me. Why is a Domme who is going to control me physically and mentally dressed up as a male sexual fantasy? Just who is in charge here? Clubs need a dress code, it means we have to make an effort and thus keeps the casual gawpers out. I love the fact that everyone at clubs is so confident and happy with their bodies and the way they dress, lets just keep away from the clichés and the stereotypes can we? proccie. Some can gaze and not be sick, But I could never learn the trick. There's this to say for blood and breath, They give a man a taste for death. | |||
| 21 Dec 07, 8:48 AM fuschia UK(SE), 11 yrs |
Unlikely to wash at quite a few clubs, though you might get away with it if you were known/with dressed up women, etc. I wouldn't assume it was going to be OK anywhere without checking first, though most club organisers contacted in advance by someone new will discuss what's going to be OK in advance, and might show some leeway. Best advice, is if in doubt, FIND OUT beforehand. Currently throroughly fed up with all the moaning. | |||
| 21 Dec 07, 9:05 AM jacksonville UK(E), 4 yrs |
Hmmm... I see your point, and I think it would be a very valid one if it applied to the attitude as well as the dress code - "I don't like BDSM but they serve great cocktails in here so I should be allowed to come in." However, when you apply it simply to people who, say, don't have any frigging leather trousers, all it means it that you're excluding people who are genuinely 'fetish' on the basis of aesthetics. Example - Club Rub (which is frighteningly specific on it's website about "NO fabric trousers") would happily let in a young guy in leather trousers and nipple clamps who did nothing but sit in the corner nursing a beer and wondering vaguely what all this spanking lark was about. It would, however, not allow someone who genuinely enjoyed BDSM, if he happened to be wearing suit trousers and a shirt. Of course, if it's *your* event than you are welcome to stipulate rules for people joining, just as I would be allowed to stipulate that, in *my* house, no hot skinny indie boys were allowed to take their shirts off. My point, though, is that someone's missing out somewhere, and being liberal and inclusive often leads to more fun for everyone. | |||
| 21 Dec 07, 9:25 AM Beau_Tox UK(CB), 7 yrs |
But WAS it in the club rules though..??!!??? There's been a whole host of posts mentioning rules, rules, rules but in the OP, it states...
It *sounds* like he was already in the club and therefore, to my way of seeing it, had already passed the issue of club rules. So this appears to refer to a one-on-one incident INSIDE the club, not something happening on the door. DomOfArabia, please can you clarify with more detail on the incident you refer to. Like which club and whether he was inside or at the door. As for dress code, I am with DomOfArabia and Jahc99 on this though. It's not my fault but I just don't have a clothing fetish. Leather, rubber, PVC just don't hit my spot. Sorry but that's how it goes. So to dress in them for the sake of entry makes it "fancy dress". I always feel that those who get hot on rubber, for example, actually have life easier, because you just go with what you like already and the decisions are easy for you. It's actually harder for me to dress for a club. Smart and black works fine for me, for example. Or better still, it's described at Hades as something like "Basically, whatever you would normally wear out on the street is not acceptable". Now THAT, I am happy with. I *do* like the getting dressed for clubbing though. Because I don't have a clothing fetish though, I have to tread a thin line between not *looking* too normal and not *feeling* like I'm in fancy dress for the sake of it (which can sometimes feel very UNsexy). I seem to have done ok so far though, no incidents at the door, no ridicule inside. But, it has actually taken quite a bit of work to find the middle-ground between club rules and myself. So perhaps the issue IS just about how much *effort* you put in. I've put in plenty.
But getting back to the OP, some people feel toppy for pushing others verbally, others use a little playful abuse as a way to step into an invite for play. The Domme in question may have fancied your friend. So do I agree with TormentorForTemptress that your friend should have given some back. I would have. If he was happy with his clothes and they made him feel good and he passed the door code then go tell her to feck off and stuff her overfilled, underused toybag up her underused arse. Sideways. Or whatever words were appropriate given whatever it was that was said to him. But just because although he got a little ridicule, it may not have been meant nastily. The lady may have been trying to get him under her whip. Strange things happen in strange clubs with strange people in strange dress... So, more facts please DomOfArabia. Prof Tim There are two distinct people who inhabit this body. I am my own evil twin . . . Edited 21 Dec 07, 9:29 AM by Beau_Tox |