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| 5 Nov 07, 8:29 PM Wiley_Kit UK(PE), 7 yrs   |
Us humans also come into towns and make a huge mess, we also spread deadlier diseases as well as we are pretty good at damaging property. I really am all for a human hunt. I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but theyve always worked for me - Hunter S Thompson | |||
| 5 Nov 07, 8:30 PM Attitude_Adjuster UK(N), 6 yrs |
Yes.... I certainly agree with that point. But I don't think the OP was really interested in that debate? Many people wear leather/fur etc not in a BDSM context, essentially fun or fashion, is that any different? People eat meat because they think it tastes nicer, they will not starve without it. So whilst 'indulging a fetish' portrays the abuse of an animal as a rather frivolous thing, I personally don't see it as being so different from the vanilla contexts that the majority of people abuse animals in our society - at the level of ethics, that is. Most people have ethical boundaries somewhere but there are not many people who put them in exactly the same place, and on such an emotive issue those subtleties will cause a conversation like this to degenerate to a bun fight. This is why I think its off topic AND a troll.
I'm not sharing my own ethics here in the slightest M And all men kill the thing they love, By all let this be heard, Some do it with a bitter look, Some with a flattering word, The coward does it with a kiss, The brave man with a sword! Edited 5 Nov 07, 8:32 PM by Attitude_Adjuster | |||
| 5 Nov 07, 8:56 PM Doghouse_Reilly UK(MK), 6 yrs |
Don't care for fur. It's incredibly tacky. It's conspicuous consumption for people who think they are above such things. It's marginally more tasteful than giant sovereign rings and chunky gold jewellery from Argos, but it's still basically the same stuff. And don't get me wrong, I'm not an animal lover, I won't even eat salad unless I know it was stolen from a rabbit. Hell hath no fury like the vast robot armies of a woman scorned. | |||
| 5 Nov 07, 9:23 PM Taintedinnocence UK(S), 6 yrs |
Since somebody already mentioned it... http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=... There is plenty more information out there about the fur trade, if you actually care about animals. I actively (peacefully) demonstrate against fur. I'm vegan, so no, I don't wear (or eat) any animal products. I helped make sheffield fur free for a time, although we currently have 1 shop that has just started selling it, which we have written to. I popped onto this board to see if there was anything that I actually would find interesting (I rarely do these days). Don't bother with the personal jibes, because I'm just posting my opinion as I feel it is my duty to support the anti-fur people, and I probably won't bother reading the rest of the thread, same old to me.
Oh, and as for the omnivores argument *yawn* its called evolution. Personally, I'd rather not have hair on my legs either, which is why I shave it, although I was designed to be nice and woolley to keep me warm And I do believe that animals feel pain and emotions (don't really understand how anyone can't). Personally, I think the advantage of being human is that we should be able to think, and choose not to abuse animals, as opposed to being selfish. Unfortunately for animals, the environment, and other humans, we are a rather brutal selfish lot. | |||
| 5 Nov 07, 9:36 PM ClassAct2005 UK(N), 7 yrs |
So I thought too and it's probably a healthier diet. I'm not vegetarian but that is what I thought. The grains we have to grow to feed the animals that we eat have made a bit of a mess of the planet too. Was probably better when we were nomadic hunter gatherers. Even then I thkn meat eating was rare. Men went off with great fuss to mess around pretending to hunt whilst women gathered what we ate most of the time I expect. Meat was a rare treat? May be.
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| 5 Nov 07, 11:38 PM lovethatkills UK, 5 yrs |
Er, wrong, I'm afraid.
"One half of the world cannot understand the pleasures of the other." (Jane Austen) | |||
| 5 Nov 07, 11:45 PM lovethatkills UK, 5 yrs |
Why not just get a big gun and blow them apart yourself? Very manly, Or is it watching the dogs rip them apart that you get off on?
"One half of the world cannot understand the pleasures of the other." (Jane Austen) | |||
| 5 Nov 07, 11:47 PM Original_Rebel UK(CT), 10 yrs |
Well i'm alive and i have plenty of fur and i am very much of the belief that fur should stay on animals and not be used for coats. naughty but nice | |||
| 5 Nov 07, 11:59 PM Call_Me_Harmony UK(CB), 5 yrs |
Renenbering certain photos you do indeed have plenty of fur, And I am another one for the fur stays on animals camp.
Taking risks may lead to pain. Avoiding risks stifles possibilities. I am learning to be a risk-taker. | |||
| 6 Nov 07, 12:09 AM wastrel UK(TS), 5 yrs |
Why is it that people who are happy for animals to be killed so they can eat them disapprove of wearing fur? Do only pretty animals deserve consideration? There are many who condemn practices in other countries that somehow manage to forget how the meat on their plate was produced. |
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