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| Mon 22 Oct 07, 12:49 PM Manniq UK(PE), 12 yrs  |
Well, we do seem to be having a nice lather around fatness in Doms, Dommes and probably subs as well. Interestingly, a lot of research into children's TV suggests that villains are more likely to be fat than goodies. Is this an association that we carry over into our lives generally? And if someone can be a villain, would that not make them a Dom? F'rinstance, I would advance Sydney Greenstreet as both villain and Dom.... And from real life, there is/was the ginormous figure of Robert Maxwell. Another individual who exuded a certain Commanding quality. On the other hand, when Hollywood needed a scapegoat for excess, twas to another Fatty (literally) that they turned: Fatty Arbuckle. Hmmmm...perhaps the finger in the mouth is more reminiscent of adult baby than Dom.... I dunno. Part of me makes the association: large = villain = plausible Dom. T'other half goes in precisely the opposite direction. Beyond that, I think it fairly definite that we have, as a culture, tended to either demonise or make fun of the Fat. If you'd like a more academic discussion of same, try here. But not sure what the net effect of that is leeching back into the everyday. Regards, John http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/art... Edited Sun 21 Feb 10, 1:52 AM by Manniq | ||
| 22 Oct 07, 1:48 PM SimplySal 6 yrs |
A really interesting topic.....and something that set my mind wandering. I absolutely agree that current media values echo popular attitudes towards size and weight; this seems to be a twentieth plus century trend. But prior to that? Historical villains seem to veer in the opposite direction...the one that springs to mind being the Great Long Red Legged Scissor Man, who was notoriously bereft of padding. In contrast to modern preferences for overweight baddies, those of previous centuries always seem to be rather 'agile'; you can't imagine Jack The Ripper or Dracula being anything other than lithe and slender. Conversely, poor Augustus who wouldn't eat his soup went from the hale, heart and likeable youth, to someone who became naughtier and naughtier as his weight fell off. (And on the sixth day, He Was Dead.) There must be some obvious psychology in it? | ||
| 22 Oct 07, 1:51 PM faeryboi 6 yrs |
Why the fuck are people bothering to complain and worry about someones body size when the world if full of wankers and cunts? Its peoples minds that matter not their body size. When i look into your eyes........ i see the back of your head !! | ||
| 22 Oct 07, 1:59 PM SimplySal 6 yrs |
You know that, and I know that. But it is very difficult to fight against the ingrained prejudices of an entire culture. | ||
| 22 Oct 07, 2:04 PM condemned UK(M), 11 yrs |
People often mock others who don't fit into THEIR perception of what is normal or beautiful. Too fat/skinny/tall/short/you name it someone will poke fun at it or try to make someone miserable or belittle them by pointing it out. | ||
| 22 Oct 07, 2:04 PM XyIabion UK, 8 yrs  |
Hmm would that have also applied to Laurel and Hardy? Interesting to note that Stans' name comes *first* in the partnership… Edited 22 Oct 07, 2:06 PM by XyIabion | ||
| 22 Oct 07, 2:09 PM Manniq UK(PE), 12 yrs |
Yes - but neither Laurel nor Hardy were involved in the alleged rape of an under-age girl. I say alleged rape: if you read the background to the case, what is horrendous is just how thin the prosecution case was - and how, effectively, Arbuckle was torn apart because the courts kept coming back for yet another go at him. Regards, John
http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/art... Edited 21 Feb 10, 1:53 AM by Manniq | ||
| 22 Oct 07, 2:10 PM Doghouse_Reilly UK(MK), 6 yrs |
Well somebody has to be the bad guy, and since the heroes in TV shows are usually intended to be attractive by the program makers that rules out a fat person playing them. Being fat also rules out loads of cool hero stuff. That said there are notable fat heroes on TV. Homer Simpson would be the obvious example, as TV characters go he's probably the most popular in history. There are others too though. Hell hath no fury like the vast robot armies of a woman scorned. | ||
| 22 Oct 07, 2:12 PM SimplySal 6 yrs |
Ref. Laurel and Hardy, I think that may have had something to do with the fact that Laurel wrote much of their material and made the major decisions. Edited 22 Oct 07, 2:13 PM by SimplySal | ||
| 22 Oct 07, 2:24 PM condemned UK(M), 11 yrs |
I LOVE Laurel and Hardy.So simple but yet so funny.It is the little looks and facial expressions between them that crack me up.My favourite is the episode a convict they helped put away escapes and catches up to them. | ||
| 22 Oct 07, 2:41 PM lovethatkills UK, 5 yrs |
Absolutely right. Aren't we, after all, the last people to judge anyone on surface appearance? "One half of the world cannot understand the pleasures of the other." (Jane Austen) |
