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| 17 Sep 07, 10:18 AM Tanos  UK(M), 14 yrs    |
It could be used to damage someone's reputation: most BDSM circles have a taboo against getting drunk, so if you can get someone (apparently) falling-down drunk at a munch or a club, then what does that do for other people's perception of them? Regards, Tanos
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| 17 Sep 07, 10:37 AM ideviate UK(M), 12 yrs  |
What I have to say here is that the staff at lash were totally wonderful and did everything they could to help us deal with the victim and to get her out of there safely. The ambulance staff were also wonderful. It was a bad end to an otherwise good night.... What wasn't quite so wonderful are the thoughts and fears she had to deal with in lash whilst unable to speak/move. Hearing those over the course of the weekend as she got herself back together was distressing. We have to be vigillent and keep an eye out for each other. I don't claim to know where my holiness goes - I just know that I like what is starting to show | |
| 17 Sep 07, 11:03 AM StanBWonderful UK(L), 6 yrs |
It's probably very naive of me but I didn't know the scene had a problem with drinks being spiked, I had it in my head that that just didn't happen at BDSM clubs. Munches and clubs tend to be filled with people who know each other, or at least who are itnerconnected in a friend of a friend way. It can't be too hard to trace the unknown quantity, surely? Stan | |
| 17 Sep 07, 11:16 AM flutemaster UK, 5 yrs |
The "Scene" has its predators like any social gathering. It's a sad fact of life, but awareness and caution are important wherever you are...and even better a group of loyal friends who look out for each other. After all...the whole system of initial meetings on neutral ground and safe calls are pretty standard now. It's all about being careful.
There are two kinds of people in the world, fesseurs and fesses - Georges Simenon | |
| 17 Sep 07, 11:16 AM StanBWonderful UK(L), 6 yrs |
Well, unknown people do turn up at munches all the time, but as a general rule the unknowns are the minority, unlike most other pubs. If I was at my local munch surrounded by people I knew in person, people I knew from IC, one guy who no one knew and my drink got spiked I'd be looking at the stranger first. Stan
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| 17 Sep 07, 12:11 PM sslapp UK(M), 6 yrs |
Happened to me a few months ago in one of the Canal Street bars. One of the worst experiences I have ever had!! Hope you and your teeth are feeling better Dave. wwwHAPPY BIRTHDAY(video) | |
| 17 Sep 07, 1:00 PM bohnanza UK(FK), 12 yrs |
If you think your drink was spiked did you go to the cops? And if not why not? Research would indicate most incidents of alleged spiking aren't. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6152646.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_east/6367... Science, the only religion that works even if you don't believe in it. | |
| 17 Sep 07, 1:04 PM JudyInDsGuise UK(E), 9 yrs |
The advice about looking after your drink turns to complete bollocks when the club or pub decides to make you leave your drink on a communal table whilst you go outside for a smoke. And before anti/non smokers say "drink, then smoke", it doesn't work that way. judy
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| 17 Sep 07, 1:07 PM tiana UK, 12 yrs |
Drink spiking is on the increase, and can happen anywhere. Just because an event is being held under a BDSM banner doesn't give the people immunity from such things. Spiking drinks can happen to men and women and it's not just used for date rape purposes. I've heard of people being robbed, wallets taken, cashcards being used and put back before the person has sussed out it was even missing, people giving out personal information like passwords, pin numbers etc WHAT TO DO IF YOU HAVE BEEN SPIKED -general info Everyone is aware of their personal tolerance to alcohol so if you feel odd, nauseous, tipsy or wasted and you know that you cannot be drunk, it is possible that your drink has been spiked with either drugs or alcohol. If so immediately get to a place of safety. If you are with close friends tell them of your worries, get them to take you home as quickly as possible. Once safely home ask them to stay with you until the effects of the drug have worn off. However be very sure that you implicitly trust the person or friend you are asking. Many victims of DFSA (Drug Facilitated Sexual Abuse) have been attacked by people they know, by work mates, colleagues, friends or acquaintances, and in some cases, the person they went on a date with that night. If you are alone or with a stranger go to the landlord or pub/bar manager and tell them of your fears. Get the landlord to put you in his private accommodation or an office whilst they ring a taxi, a trusted friend, or your parents to help get you home safely. If at all possible always make sure that you are accompanied by a trusted friend. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES LET A STRANGER OR ACQUAINTANCE OFFER TO HELP YOU OR TAKE YOU ANYWHERE INCLUDING TO YOUR OWN HOME - THEY COULD WELL BE THE PERSON WHO SPIKED YOUR DRINK! Date rape spiking If you fear you've had sex whilst under the influence of drugs taken unwillingly through a drink being spiked, and if you wish the police to be involved - report it! Go straight to the police, preferably the specialist officers dealing with rape and sexual abuse, and insist that they take blood and urine samples, it could prove to be vital forensic evidence. In order to establish a case it is vital that the police have the opportunity to take these samples as soon as possible as the drugs used in DFSA pass through the system very quickly (some within 12 hours others in 48). It is also advisable to make sure you are accompanied by a friend, relation or even better, a solicitor. It is very important that you visit your doctor or a GUM Clinic, as you have no proof that the rapist used a condom. Therefore in addition to the need for a morning-after pill, you must never forget the risk of aids or other sexually transmitted diseases. Tips to help prevent being drugged by date rape drugs Females in particular are strongly advised never under any circumstances to accept any opened drink, particularly from a stranger. If you are drinking, you are strongly advised to drink only bottled drinks, and to insist that you open them yourself. Don't leave your drink unattended and don't let it out of your sight. Don't share drinks with anyone, even a good friend. Never ask someone to watch your drink for you, they might simply be distracted, or might not be as trustworthy as you think. If your drink has been left unattended, don't continue drinking it, discard it. Drinking mixed-drinks from a wide-mouthed glass is asking for trouble. Avoid punch from a large mixed bowl, it is imposible to determine the contents. If a drink has a strange taste, like being salty, or has a strange appearance like being too frothy or a residue don't drink it, throw it away. Always make sure you are in the company of a trusted friend who can help you to safety should you find yourself passing out from a spiked drink. Be aware of the people around you and their behaviour. If someone shows signs of being more drunk than they would usually be after a certain ammount of alcohol they may be in danger. Useful resources: www.roofie.com - The Roofie Foundation. Info on how to deal with Date Rape 0800 783 2980 9am-9pm. http://www.spikey.co.uk/index.htm Spikey a plastic "use once only" stopper that helps prevent drinks from being spiked. Can be bought in Tescos' Sainsburys and some clubs too. http://www.survive.org.uk/date-rape.html#drug Information on some of the drugs used for spiking drinks. Take care tiana www.munchinfo.co.uk For info about Munches in the UK | |
| 17 Sep 07, 1:15 PM x_flaire_x UK(OX), 10 yrs |
Good Lord! f x |
