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I've only read the first Gor book (27)

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13 Sep 07, 12:21 AM
Romola
UK, 7 yrs

alexandraa wrote:

Probably best wanked over when you're 14/16 (or have mental age thereof) and never touched again....

I do wish I'd discovered them at that age. I know that I really would have loved them, and probably retained an affection for them, the way I do for Star Trek, Dr Who or the James Bond novels I obsessed about at 11 or 12. It's just that I had no awareness of them till I was over 40, and to enjoy them properly, I would have needed to be able to fantasize that it was real.

Clearly, it's in your interest not to annoy other users of IC by felching the wanking barfs or weblogs with ads.

13 Sep 07, 12:25 AM
MissP
UK(EN), 8 yrs
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14 Sep 07, 10:55 PM
alexandraa
UK(NW), 8 yrs
Romola wrote:
alexandraa wrote:

Probably best wanked over when you're 14/16 (or have mental age thereof) and never touched again....

I do wish I'd discovered them at that age. I know that I really would have loved them, and probably retained an affection for them, the way I do for Star Trek, Dr Who or the James Bond novels I obsessed about at 11 or 12. It's just that I had no awareness of them till I was over 40, and to enjoy them properly, I would have needed to be able to fantasize that it was real.

Oh bummmm!!!

I wanked over them a lot at the ages of 14 to 16... possibly right up to 18, happy days. And the story of O. A kind of early learner for the budding masochist submissive. Took me to 39 to actually meet a bloke to make those fantasies come true though... in a far more real and erotic way than i ever expected. Hence the strap line....

Be careful what you wish for

15 Sep 07, 12:11 AM
overlap
UK(CF), 7 yrs

I never understood the ravings about '100 days of Sodom' by de Beavoir and Sartre. de Sade was a tedious writer, even though he wasn't paid at all, IIRC.

As for John Norman, I'm surprised that I managed to miss him in my teens when I pretty much lived on science fiction. But the little I've read (of excerpts) and the sites I've seen suggest that I didn't miss anything. Fans claim that Norman is adapting Nietzsche, but Fred wouldn't have tolerated bad writing. The idea that the West (and therefore humanity) had swallowed 'slave morality' wasn't really tenable in the 19th century (after, say, Napoleon, and just before the first concentration camps in South Africa) never mind after WWI and the Holocaust. Plenty of people had adopted the 'warrior mentality' or whatever you want to call it. The flew their planes into US warships. They died at Stalingrad. Etc.

If Norman's still alive, maybe he could type (writing is too kind, and we can't have that, being hard and all) Osama of Gor. He had many wives. They were veiled to keep them from other men and they kept their eyes to the ground as females should. Osama was a real man. He lived in a cave, being really tough and everything. He would show those delicate Westerners who had betrayed the true Gor. This is why he had his followers trained as pilots. Etc. Etc.

Nietzsche penetrated Western culture far more than Norman allowed. Starting perhaps with Andre Gide, then Robert Graves, Yeats (An Irish Airman foresees his Death), Pound ... Hitchcock. "A tough motherfucker. He finished. He could have gone for general, but he went for himself, instead." (Milius). We were hard from the start: see Kubrick, esp "A Clockwork Orange" and "2001". The first of those ends with film archives of the Holocaust. The second ends with nuclear war (clearer in the book), but the "humanity began with murder" bit is clear in the film, even if the first satellite you see's purpose (as a nuclear bomb) isn't. The point is, how do we make ourselves soft.

People of Earth weren't warlike enough for Norman when their eyeballs had melted down their cheeks, people had been vaporized and their only traces were shadows; others had been tattooed, beaten, starved, gassed, and burned. If you want to read about women being whipped, try 'Catch-22' (I can't remember offhand if it was Colonel Schiesskopf or Major Major Major Major who wouldn't whip his wife because he'd rather think about parades.) If only men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.

Reason is and ought to be the slave of the passions and can never pretend to any other office than to serve and obey them.
David Hume

15 Sep 07, 12:32 AM
solelik
UK, 8 yrs
i liked Fighting slave of Gor very much.

It has some incredible passages of slave auctions and male slavery.

Other titles i suggest are Priest Kings of Gor.

Hunters of Gor.

Beasts of Gor

Nomads of Gor

Slave girl of Gor.

At Your feet Mistress

15 Sep 07, 6:27 PM
Rarius
UK(PE), 11 yrs
Personally as someone who has read and reread the books of Gor for over twenty years, I object strongly to the Gor-bashing I have read in this thread... but its your right to your opinion as much as it is my right to object.

If you don't like JN's style then don't read them... personally I do. As does my slave. I introduced her to the books some eight months ago and she had the same reaction to them that I did twenty odd years ago... "Wow! Someone actually sees it the same way I do!"

Gor is a world where honour means something... where slavegirls are owned absolutely, but cared for as well! Cruelty and humiliation are the exception, not the rule on Gor.

John Norman is still alive and writing. He has over the years been very badly treated by publishers who dropped him for "political correctness" reasons even though his books were in having to be reprinted almost every year.

His books have just been republished both as paperbacks and eBooks, including one that were never published in the UK and one that has never been published at all... For more info please look at http://www.gorchronicles.com

To answer the original posters question... I would suggest Captive, Marauders, Assassin and the three books of the Jason sub-series Fighting-slave, roge and Guardsman.

16 Sep 07, 6:58 AM
solelik
UK, 8 yrs
Tal Rarius,

Well said!

At Your feet Mistress

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