Posted by RavenMuse on Sat 18 Aug 07, 10:56 AM to RavenMuse's blog.
Just checking I hadn't accidentally logged onto the Womens Institute site or the mary whitehouse appreciation society site.
Just glancing at the thread on weight this morning. Now full and I can't be bothered starting a whole new thread on the subject, given My 'concerns' are not about the OP and the weight issue itself, but rather on the fact that some here seem to have entirely forgotten the very nature of this place.
the comment that particularly had Me shaking My head was...
| I cant understand why your Dom wants you to lose weight, i think he is wrong! ! ! Ultimately its your body, your choice! ! ! |
Whilst from the point of view of aesthetics I would agree than *I* would have no wish to have the young lady in question loose weight.... but the rest of what I quoted? Huh?
He is wrong? her body her choice?..... And where perchance do either of those two statements have ANY validation?
If in that situation He has her full submission, he has her full consent. He has every RIGHT to do so and no, it is NOT her body or her choice IF the Dynamic is such that she has submitted those to Him.
My girl trusts in the fact that I am careful with her self esteem (Bloody easy for Me given I Own such a beautiful girl!). But there is only ONE choice that she has that is NOT accountable to Me....the choice to remove consent and walk away.... EVERYTHING else is Mine.
If I want her to loose weight then I have the right to make her do so. If I wish her to gain weight then I have every right to make her do so. If I wish her to stand on her head and sing the entire score of the sound of music.... I have every right to make her do so!!!!
She trusts I will handle that consent sensibly, she trusts that I care for her, look after her and have her best interests in mind as well as My Own..... but the consent, the right.... is ALREADY Mine!
People, try not to forget where you are! For some people D/s maybe a fun 'game'.... for others it is just part of everyday life and not in any way a 'game'
The site is big enough for both so long as both sides remember that if it woks for those involved then it works and isn't "wrong", it doesn't matter if you don't identify with it or don't understand it....even don't LIKE it... just stay the hell away from it, keep your nose out and leave well alone!
There are situations around here I personally think are highly dodgy... but they seem to work for those in them, end of story, I've no need to attack them for it and when I do discuss such issues I make the attempt to keep withing "the view from this little corner of the universe" rather than judgement statements of generic wrongness.
Edited Sat 18 Aug 07, 10:57 AM by RavenMuse
| 18 Aug 07, 11:06 AM JudyInDsGuise UK(E), 9 yrs |
I'm in shock. I agree with you! judy
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| 18 Aug 07, 11:09 AM RavenMuse 6 yrs |
*THUD!* *Falls over in surprise*
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| 18 Aug 07, 11:13 AM ghost666 6 yrs |
hmm aint that the whole point of giving yourself to someone? ok if your just casual players or in a part time relationship of course the ammount of control over some things is differing but if you are a slave...submissive...or owned (which ever buzz word you use)...then your Dom..Master..Owners happiness is what counts. if He has anything about Him or Her then of course you wouldnt be in danger...just being moulded to His desires. to change the weight or outward appearance is something you dont want to do...as YOU dont want to...exactly how much have you given to Him/Her in the first place??? it is better to ask forgivness, than to ask for permission | |||
| 18 Aug 07, 11:17 AM littlenic 5 yrs |
But isn't that what's shown really well on that thread? That there are lots of different levels of D/s in people's relationships, and everyone does it in slightly different ways. None better than the other. So people are giving their views and opinions from where they stand - it's up to the OP then to pick and choose and take into account the opinions and advice that most mirror her own situation. I should think, even if someone were to spell out entirely clearly in their OP their dynamic (which would be tiresome for them), you're still going to get people commenting from another perspective - 'tis the joy of the internet, I should think. Personally, as a newbie to all this, I found that thread enlightening, in the sense that it really made me think a lot about what I would and wouldn't be prepared to do, about the level of dynamic I think would be right for me. And I don't think it would have had that effect if it had all been advice from either extreme (the "ooh, how dare he" perspective or the "yes, you do it because he says so and damn the consequences on your mental health" angle).
Congrats on your happiness, btw!! A denizen of Lowewood Academy | |||
| 18 Aug 07, 11:24 AM RavenMuse 6 yrs |
Absolutely. Mine in mind, body and soul... doesn't leave much room for cherrypicking. And anyone here surprised that such is My primary Dynamic? I doubt it, It isn't just My profile where I'm open about such things.... Doesn't that stand to reason that anyone seriously looking to give herself to Me in primary Dynamic terms rather knows that? Hence would be actively LOOKING for that! It works for the people involved. End of story. I have little in common with those who are 'just about the BDSM play'... I know and get on with quite a number of them. Their bag ain't My bag but that isn't an issue.... There is as much point attacking each other over that difference as there would be in waring over whether We eat a boiled egg from the round or pointy end!
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| 18 Aug 07, 11:29 AM RavenMuse 6 yrs |
Not from the way *I* read quite a number of the comments. There is a world of difference between a statement of 'This is the way it would work from My Dynamic" and one of "It is WRONG. He has no RIGHT"
Many thanks. you'll have to come over sometime when she's here. she does the tea thang but the only chance she will have to drink it is when I have a guest around that I am willing to accommodate the foul stuff with
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| 18 Aug 07, 11:31 AM Janie_0 UK(G), 8 yrs  |
i would of agreed with you if this site was only for D/s and only people who were D or s were members, but it's not, it involves tops, bottoms, switches etc etc and not everyone is in the frame of "ownership" mind. The question was asked and answers were given based on peoples experiences and opinions. Which i think is fair enough to be honest. Otherwise, yeah if a sub has a Dom and he wants her to lose / gain weight or whatever else then thats what should happen. She should be trusting him enough to make that decision. There is only one way to happiness, and that is to cease worrying things which are beyond the power of our will. | |||
| 18 Aug 07, 11:38 AM RavenMuse 6 yrs |
So you would find it fair enough someone hopping onto a thread you started and telling you that you where WRONG to hold back anything from a Dom and that He had every right to demand you do anything He said..... despite you working a submissive Dynamic where areas are negotiated and submitted rather than the whole package at once as in an M/s One? Thats the difference here! People are not saying "This is how I would do it", they are saying "your Dynamic is WRONG"
you know that... I know that............
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| 18 Aug 07, 11:42 AM Janie_0 UK(G), 8 yrs |
Truth is, i'd of never of started that thread in the first place, i know only too well how people like to voice their negative opinions on something, which is why rarely i will get involved with debate either. But if you ask the question i think its fair to say that you should be ready for the opinions.
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| 18 Aug 07, 11:55 AM RavenMuse 6 yrs |
Opinions are fine... hell I'm an opinionated old goat Myself. But I do try to keep to "perspective" statements rather than generic value statements. Sometimes I get it wrong, other times people just read it wrong... but I at least attempt to do it.
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