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Fetishising innocence - a rant! (18)

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25 Jul 07, 8:22 PM
kisses_for_me
UK, 5 yrs
verte wrote:
justshootme wrote:
I think I have to disagree here :)

The innocent/depraved thing actually works both ways round for me. Either taking the innocent and thouroughly corrupting her, or taking the truly depraved and doing a "my fair lady" on her.

So you like your 'lady in the street' and 'whore in the bedroom' type thing, I'm guessing. Your fetish - etc etc, I know. It's just such a repressive concept for women. It's pretty much why it's somehow still okay to sleep around if you're male, but not if you're female, because you need to keep up the facade of being ladylike, proper, moral guardians, etc. If you're female you're a slag, if you're male you're a stud. Etc.

Well firstly I suppose I should say that I have never indulged in sexual or even d/s activities outside a firm and stable relationship. That is something I am very strict with myself about.

Secondly please allow me to clarify a little (I hope). It is not the virgin or whore image, whichever way round the process works, its the idea of the control, of taking the girl somewhere new, or back to somewhere left behind long ago. Needless to say consent is compulsory :)

Power corrupts, absolute power is kind of neat

25 Jul 07, 11:44 PM
Bronte
8 yrs
skyfox wrote:
I must just be really gullible. Got a message on yahoo from a "shy, new femsub", and so I sent a friendly message, one femsub to another, offering some moral support. Then I found the same girl on several other sites, all plugging the same "shy, new femsub" thing. Got me thinking, is she really all innocent and shy, or is that just the worm on the hook for all the Doms?

HERE FISHY FISHY!!!!!!! Its true, they do it to attract attention by people wanting to be kind, and maybe offer them help and openings into our circles. THEN, when they ARE in...they ignore you. can you spot i fell for that, the "ohh im new and innocent please help" shite. I am a little bit bitter, but only because this little cow in burrowing her way into my mates. who are also falling for it. So, on reflection...am i jelious? or just annoyed i fell for it??? ooooooooh question!!

xx love ya vert!!!!! xxxxxxx

PLEASE DO NOT PARK INFRONT OF THIS SIGN!!!! stooopid people!! i throw my shoe at you!!!!!!! grrr.

25 Jul 07, 11:57 PM
Amaranth
UK(N), 7 yrs
verte wrote:
At drama school and in the world of acting I've been told many times my casting stereotype would be 'wench', 'prostitute', 'whore', etc.

I've always got 'psycho' or 'victim' - one extreme to the other *lol* I was once told I'd have made a brillinat Wednesday Addams. I could have died a very happy woman that day :-D

“When life gives you lemons, make lemonade, and then throw it in the face of the person who gave you the lemons until they give you the oranges you originally asked for."
Satin Sting ~ Strange Roads

26 Jul 07, 1:47 PM
verte
UK(E), 8 yrs
Bronte wrote:
skyfox wrote:
I must just be really gullible. Got a message on yahoo from a "shy, new femsub", and so I sent a friendly message, one femsub to another, offering some moral support. Then I found the same girl on several other sites, all plugging the same "shy, new femsub" thing. Got me thinking, is she really all innocent and shy, or is that just the worm on the hook for all the Doms?

HERE FISHY FISHY!!!!!!! Its true, they do it to attract attention by people wanting to be kind, and maybe offer them help and openings into our circles. THEN, when they ARE in...they ignore you. can you spot i fell for that, the "ohh im new and innocent please help" shite. I am a little bit bitter, but only because this little cow in burrowing her way into my mates. who are also falling for it. So, on reflection...am i jelious? or just annoyed i fell for it??? ooooooooh question!!

xx love ya vert!!!!! xxxxxxx

Urgh!! Fake shrinking violet types (who are usually really manipulative underneath) make me want to hurl! Especially women who basically befriend you for the sole purpose of flirting with your male friends. Certainly come across them before! I'd be most annoyed if people I liked and generally respected fell for the 'I'm soooo sweet and innocent' act personally, but c'est la vie. I get equally annoyed when my female friends go for sexist arseholes. Good thing Tom likes his crazy women, really. If he went for anyone like that I don't know if I'd cope with it very well AT ALL. You're going to have to rant about this at length to me soon!

See you soooooon in York, I hope. xxx

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Edited 26 Jul 07, 2:54 PM by verte

26 Jul 07, 1:53 PM
verte
UK(E), 8 yrs
amaranth wrote:
verte wrote:
At drama school and in the world of acting I've been told many times my casting stereotype would be 'wench', 'prostitute', 'whore', etc.

I've always got 'psycho' or 'victim' - one extreme to the other *lol* I was once told I'd have made a brillinat Wednesday Addams. I could have died a very happy woman that day :-D

Have you never played a vampy whore, then? You surprise me! My favourite role ever was playing a Spanish, flamenco dancing courtesan who was also a bit of a psycho... I never get victim parts, dammit!

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26 Jul 07, 2:44 PM
verte
UK(E), 8 yrs
Beelzebunny wrote:
I think some Doms' control is based on their being the only decent shag a girl's ever had. If they found themselves with a woman who realised that, while probably in the minority, men who knew their way round a women's body weren't exactly hen's teeth - then they'd have to try a bit harder.

I think my submission has much more to do with a rumbustious sexuality and a robust personality than fragility. And I have to say I prefer the kind of men who are attracted by that!

Rumbustious! What a fabulous word. My name is verte and I'm a rumbustious slut. :) I also prefer people who are equally exuberant about sex and play and, well, life.

And you may well be right about control. I can certainly identify with that as the stupid inexperienced sub! These days I'm picky and cynical. I think it's wise. :)

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27 Jul 07, 12:46 PM
RavenMuse
6 yrs
Beelzebunny wrote:
Of course there's always the logic that says that men who see women who have been well fucked as being polluted, must also see their own fucking as a kind of pollutant.

So, their contempt for the sexual experience of women is an extension of their contempt for their own sexuality. But I think we knew that anyway....

Hadn't looked at that angle before but can see the logic. I tend to assume those who are afraid of a girl having experience its a sign of the guys insecurity. If he thinks he is a crap lover then he doesn't want her to have much to compare with for fear of coming off badly in that comparison.

Whilst now I tend to be drawn to younger it is the Dynamic and aesthetic appeal, I'd find a lack of experience to be a problem rather than the opposite. Until I was in My early-mid 20's it was always the older woman I found attractive, and one reason for that, particularly when I was a teen, was that they HAD experience, know what they where doing and where confident enough to be open to exploring possibility's and trying new things. They where oft excited by the prospect rather than having to be coaxed every damn step of the way like girls closer to My then age.

30 Jul 07, 8:05 PM
afterlife
UK(PR), 6 yrs
If you believe in Evolutionary Psychology ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_psycho... ), such attitudes are supposed to be inbuilt. The idea is that men cannot know for certain that their children are their children. Therefore they run the risk of "wasting" their parenting on somebody else's children.

The solution is to control women's sexuality, and you can see this at a wedding when the woman is literally given to the husband by the father.

Sexually experienced woman are uncontrolled and therefore a bad risk.

Personally, I do think that there is an element in this. But I think it has more to do with money that genes.

www.afterlife.org.uk

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