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would you be 'told' ? (64)

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24 Jul 07, 7:00 PM
Diablos_patience
UK, 6 yrs
Lady_Alys wrote:
Diamondlil wrote:
Lady_Alys wrote:
Diamondlil wrote:
Right, sub or not, if someone was in my house watching the telly i paid for (telly, wtf's that to do with Dom/sub temporary play relationship?) swanning round the kitchen while im stuck in a bedroom - two words; teeth everywhere.

A bit of discretion and humanity for fucks sake.

If thats THEIR dynaminc, and a little added humiliation, fine, but if this man is actucally getting upset in his own home and cant change that, someone needs to get fucked off. Have a bit of fucking respect.

And thats my opinion, and im not telling everyone thats how it should be, so dont jump on me cos i wont bloody reply.

lol ... I like a man who speaks his mind. strange as it may seem and as temperance has already said the Dom is usually a reasonable man if alittle arrogant.

You calling me arrogant?? Whats temperance been saying?? ;)

Niether of us would dare............... ;-)

ermmm i may .. :-D

Its not me talking.. its the wine!!

24 Jul 07, 7:01 PM
Diamondlil
5 yrs
temperance wrote:
Lady_Alys wrote:
Diamondlil wrote:
Lady_Alys wrote:
Diamondlil wrote:
Right, sub or not, if someone was in my house watching the telly i paid for (telly, wtf's that to do with Dom/sub temporary play relationship?) swanning round the kitchen while im stuck in a bedroom - two words; teeth everywhere.

A bit of discretion and humanity for fucks sake.

If thats THEIR dynaminc, and a little added humiliation, fine, but if this man is actucally getting upset in his own home and cant change that, someone needs to get fucked off. Have a bit of fucking respect.

And thats my opinion, and im not telling everyone thats how it should be, so dont jump on me cos i wont bloody reply.

lol ... I like a man who speaks his mind. strange as it may seem and as temperance has already said the Dom is usually a reasonable man if alittle arrogant.

You calling me arrogant?? Whats temperance been saying?? ;)

Niether of us would dare............... ;-)

ermmm i may .. :-D

Go Fetch my chopsticks, and a thin rubber paddle.

24 Jul 07, 7:24 PM
StrictlyFunX
UK(SO), 5 yrs
I got lost there. I'm sure it simpler than I thought. Or not. Maybe I'm just slow.
25 Jul 07, 12:05 AM
Lady_Alys
UK(RG), 6 yrs
StrictlyFunX wrote:
I got lost there. I'm sure it simpler than I thought. Or not. Maybe I'm just slow.

I've tried, AA route master, streetmap and TOM Tom - I'm still lost.............

25 Jul 07, 12:22 AM
Diamondlil
5 yrs
Lady_Alys wrote:
StrictlyFunX wrote:
I got lost there. I'm sure it simpler than I thought. Or not. Maybe I'm just slow.

I've tried, AA route master, streetmap and TOM Tom - I'm still lost.............

Try Garmin, theyre quite good..

25 Jul 07, 12:35 AM
BigOldHector
UK(DE), 10 yrs

What immediately springs to mind here is that if your sub has a busy professional life and is then travelling 6 hours each way every time he visits you, then presumably his partner and her dom must have more than ample opportunity to have their privacy without causing the guy any inconvenience at all - if they can be arsed to be considerate in the slightest.

When others have said the same, you've quite rightly said we're stating the obvious - because it IS obvious. But I just cannot understand why your sub is not taking things in hand himself. After all this dom is only a visitor in HIS home, with no business to be taking unwelcome liberties.

Something seems to be missing from this story. Is there something you haven't told us?

I AM THE GOD OF HELL-FIRE!.....but its my lunch break right now

25 Jul 07, 4:39 AM
SinPar
US, 12 yrs
Lady_Alys wrote:
would you be 'told' ? I've been 'told' it doesn't affect 'us' therefore no need for me to get involved! Where are the boundries with a poly arrangement? Am I really expected to just sit back and wait to be 'told' whats happening? If so I'm really not sure I can............
From what you've said it sounds as if you have a stake in the situation if nothing more than to be certain that your submissive is supported and treated with respect. That dominant is a guest in your submissive's home. If the visiting dominant isn't willing to negotiate with your submissive as to how to ensure privacy for them with the least amount of inconvenience for him as a co-host then I believe I'd have to make a trip there and discuss this with the dominant face to face. With some time and discussion, I'm certain that a solution that makes everyone content can be worked out.

The boundaries of the poly arrangement concern the people in the arrangement. Your submissive isn't a partner in the poly arrangement...he just happens to be wed to one of the partners (primary partner of a secondary partner in a poly relationship it sounds like). Partners in relationships have a stake in the happiness of all the other partners, and it doesn't sound as if his feelings or needs have been given any consideration whatsoever... so it sounds as if he's more of an in-law and external to the poly group.

I think I'd have a talk with the dominant after talking to your submissive to see what he thinks he is willing to live with in terms of affording them some privacy. If they're unmovable, I'd probably just go sit in the lounge while they're there and see if they'd say anything to me. I'm like that when people hurt the people I care about.

SinPar

-- The weak are the most treacherous of us all. They come to the strong and drain them. They are bottomless. They are insatiable. They are always parched and always bitter. They are everyone's concern, and like vampires they suck our life's blood. (Bette Davis)

Edited 25 Jul 07, 4:43 AM by SinPar

25 Jul 07, 6:19 AM
twisted_kitty
UK(OX), 4 yrs

ok look i know he is sub but does he not have control over his own life. Seriously he can speak cant he? Am i being thick here. If his partner loves him she would not allow this to happen would she? It sounds like they are trying to push him out if you ask me. I know he is sub but cant he tell his partner and express the level of hurt? If she does not care does this not show that her loyalties are with her dom and not her partner! I say actions speak louder than words. Well unless they think he enjoys the humilation of the situation. Do they communicate clearly?

Edited 25 Jul 07, 6:29 AM by twisted_kitty

25 Jul 07, 7:29 AM
chartreuse
UK(BA), 6 yrs

If the sub (your sub) is the owner of the property, pays the bills and is not his wifes Doms sub (hope you followed that!! =-o) then I don't see why he should do as he is told by his wifes Dom.

Respect is a two-way street.... where is the visiting Dom's respect for the owner of the property he visits?

I think that the visiting Dom should be the one who is restricted to certain areas of the house, especially as the house-owner, bill-payer, husband of his sub is resident.

It all sounds to me like it is going to end in a lot of upset.... it seems it's already headed that way.

IMO.... A sub is not a sub unless they have submitted to a Dom/me... if your sub hasn't submitted to his wifes Dom he has every right to make the ground-rules in his own home.

I don't envy you your dilemma.

C x :)

~ETA: I wouldn't be told by a Dom/me who I had not submitted to where I could go in my own home when they visited it.... FFS!! Sometimes, the reality is not as good as the dream. Personally I wouldn't accept this situation anyway.... but then, I wouldn't share a partner either.~

Edited 25 Jul 07, 7:47 AM by chartreuse

25 Jul 07, 4:42 PM
Lady_Alys
UK(RG), 6 yrs
Kissyourfeet wrote:
What immediately springs to mind here is that if your sub has a busy professional life and is then travelling 6 hours each way every time he visits you, then presumably his partner and her dom must have more than ample opportunity to have their privacy without causing the guy any inconvenience at all - if they can be arsed to be considerate in the slightest.

When others have said the same, you've quite rightly said we're stating the obvious - because it IS obvious. But I just cannot understand why your sub is not taking things in hand himself. After all this dom is only a visitor in HIS home, with no business to be taking unwelcome liberties.

Something seems to be missing from this story. Is there something you haven't told us?

I've tried to be fair and honest. I didn't begin the post to slag off any of those involved. I began it to get some advice about a situation I'm still learning about.

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