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| 3 Apr 07, 7:41 PM Deviant_Bitch UK(G), 6 yrs   |
Alot of people when doing a more advanced scene would try and build up a relationship. That might be easier to prove consent. I do realise that it is hard when you take so much for granted but not all of us do. I have been asked to do things that I was not comfortable with and I refused because I thought it looked dangerous or hard to prove consent. God put me in charge so it is all my fault... sorry. | ||
| 3 Apr 07, 7:54 PM spirifer UK, 6 yrs |
Absolutely - anyone seen that film, "Love, Honour and Obey"? | ||
| 3 Apr 07, 8:04 PM spankomike 8 yrs |
Puppy play? I wouldn't treat my dog like that, and I wouldn't treat a human like that. It annoys me that people think it is normal to mistreat animals, because it is only a short step from being cruel to animals to being cruel to humans. As Dr Doolittle said, 'Why do we treat animals.. like animals? My understand of puppy play is that it is about a loving relationship between 'puppy' and owner, much like that experienced by true loving pet owners.. Sigh.. | ||
| 3 Apr 07, 8:41 PM Ishmael UK(SE), 12 yrs |
On the other hand, it's a bizarre accusation just to make up, isn't it? And if a couple of geezers, who knew what they were doing, decided to make the poor guy be a dog, irrespective of his consent, they could very probably have done it, generally if you overpower someone and then hurt them often enough, they probably will be a dog if that's what makes the hurt stop, at least in the short term. I did read about a similar case in Stoke about 20 years ago, in which a woman was forced to be servant to a group of 'friends', calling them 'your majesty' etc And false accusations do get made, but as far as I know sexual assaults and rapes happen rather more often.
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| 3 Apr 07, 9:04 PM Ishmael UK(SE), 12 yrs |
Shit, yeah! The whole fantasy behind London Corporal Punishment School would be horrific if it were really happening - quite beside the beatings and sexual abuse, it would all be happening to teenagers - and even if it weren't, the level of implied co-ercion to make it happen non-consensually would be horrible in itself. We are eroticising that which, in the real world, are really nasty things to do - immobilasation, beating, torture, humiliation - the stuff of certain Third World governments (and America, obviously) becomes sex game for consenting partners. There's actually no real suprise here - grown ups playing grown up Cops n Robbers as elaborate sexual foreplay is not really a very big leap - far less wierd than the tabloids would like people to think - the important thing is to remember, when fantasising about the next time you work your lover over with your Doc Martens and rubber truncheon, that the real thing isn't fun or sexy or a game, because what's happening to the poor fucker in a Turkish prison *is* more important than our right to a happy sex life. | ||
| 3 Apr 07, 9:04 PM ThedaVamp UK, 6 yrs |
Because women cry rape all the time don't they? 2% rate of false accusations were made because the women were a bit bored or upset and decided that "Hey! I know what! All this stuff about the enormous number of rapists not being prosecuted, all these stats about how the number of rapes is over 50% higher than the published figures because women don't report them and how getting cross examined by police and the courts really makes me want to try and push the odds and see if I can get some sympathy here!" Fuck you and fuck your bitter twisted outlook. I don't care if I get banned. It needed to be said. | ||
| 3 Apr 07, 9:07 PM Ishmael UK(SE), 12 yrs |
Yeah, one time I was playing with a favourite Top, and in response to a suggestion, she arched an eyebrow and asked 'Are you sure you want me to do this?' My stomach flipped over.
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| 3 Apr 07, 9:11 PM deelish UK(RM), 10 yrs |
What Theda said..... Oh and a report on what a woman (or man to some degree) can expect when reporting a rape.... not something many would do lightly I suspect. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3077635.stm d | ||
| 3 Apr 07, 9:14 PM frapperia UK, 4 yrs |
Not that I've ever done any of what was in the article, and nor would I personally go beyond the bounds of fantasy in acting most of it out, but everyone's different. One person's 'loving relationship' where the 'puppy' curls up at the feet, is fed treats, whatever, is another person's 'humiliation play', where the 'puppy' might be shaved of body hair or pushed to a hard limit by taking them outside. I am not saying for a minute that the men in this article were into BDSM but considering that similar fantasies and kinds of roleplay are evident in parts of the kinky community, it doesn't exactly reflect well on us. And as far as it not involving any BDSM, I rather think the way the men treated the poor bloke was a form of 'dominance' and what they were doing was pretty sadistic... | ||
| 3 Apr 07, 9:44 PM x_Red_x 6 yrs |
Give that woman a standing ovation! Red |
MKane that is the biggest pile of shite I've read in a long time!!! WTF??? 
