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| 2 Feb 07, 9:08 AM RavenMuse 6 yrs |
Absolutely. I find Myself that My reaction to certain situations differs so much as to totaly change what the experience would be. No sinking into the feeling for Me. Even if I have agreed to it, the only 'anticipation' I have in of controling the urge to grab the impliment and damage the person holding it.... My mind knows they are not an 'attacker', but My reactions don't (Rather linked to some of My past proffessions and pastimes) It means that I have that much adrenaline running through the system before even the first strike that it would have to be pretty hard for Me to even register the pain. There are some things I will check on Myself, (Often to gauge a new floggers sting/thud for instance, then I know how to use it in order to enhance one side or the other). If I want to be sure of the temperature of a certain candle's wax at a set distance... again I can check that. But so much depends on the reactions of the girl, that many things, any experience *I* may have of the impliment on Myself is fairly useless. Just don't make assumptions, learn the girls reactions anew with each new sensation, each new situation. There is no rush, if you are going to push her limits on something, take your time getting upto them, refamiliarise yourself with how she reacts on the way... have fun, but don't forget she trusts you to keep her from harm. | ||
| 2 Feb 07, 9:56 AM NinjaBitch 7 yrs |
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the OP was talking about experiencing reactions such as feeling submissive or reacting emotionally or experiencing specific physiological responses to the tool of the craft. I think it was simply about getting a first-hand experience as to the physical sensation the tool causes, as opposed to the reaction it causes. Everyone reacts differently, we'd be kidding ourselves if we thought our personal experience with a tool was the measure for everyone else. I'm certainly not subbing when I take a few to see if this one is more hurty than that the other one. Nor am I bottoming when I'm learning how varied techniques can facilitate different sensations. I would think it curious if anyone thought any differently, specifically, you must be a sub if you've been hit by a flogger! C'mon...
Endorphines are a natural reaction to stimulous so to say that you don't feel it makes me think you are odd Nobody is questioning your domliness or calling you a switch (horror!) when you are the sort who test your equipment personally.
Freudian slip: When you say one thing but mean your mother. Edited 2 Feb 07, 10:04 AM by NinjaBitch | ||
| 2 Feb 07, 12:37 PM MistressRouge UK(B), 6 yrs £ |
When I purchased My Violet wand a few years ago, I tried it on Myself. Best to explore some areas to feel the stimulation, I say. The same view whilst shopping for tools and implements, best to have a swoosh and a feel for it. Torment & Pleasure.... entwined together.... | ||
| 2 Feb 07, 12:56 PM RavenMuse 6 yrs |
People react diffrently to pain... for one thing I have constant pain due to the back. The sensation would have to be a lot more intense for it to register AS pain because I am used to dealing with a certain amount of pain stimuli every day 24/7/365, it is just normal life to Me. As I went on to say I do a certain amount of testing Myself, but the point was that no amount of testing is going to be enough for you to KNOW what she is going to feel, everyone reacts diffrently. That is something you learn by learning HER and how she reacts. You can't assume just because YOU have tested something that you can wade in like a bull in a china shop! ETA: The comment about how I react to another person being involved in the testing was to highlight that it can be a factor. I have to be the one to test it on Myself.... because I automaticaly react strongly to the situation and end up too focused on not reacting to that to get much insight from the test itself otherwise. Edited 2 Feb 07, 1:00 PM by RavenMuse | ||
| 2 Feb 07, 1:05 PM Morticia UK, 10 yrs |
Depends what you define as odd! To outsiders most of the things we do,seem to be bizarre or crazy.I would never stick a needle in myself or another person,unless it was for a medical reason,but each to their own. "What may be seen by one,may often be dark or obscure to another." | ||
| 2 Feb 07, 9:26 PM Soulpearl UK(M), 11 yrs |
I try things on myself before using them on others, even if it's just for a few seconds. How biting is a new flogger? How sharp are the nipple clamps? How hard is a gag? It's a bit like dipping my elbow into the water first. I like to know exactly what it is I'm doing to someone. It also helps me to imagine the sub's own experience and plan the scene better. Sp. ...digging below the moral high-ground. | ||
| 2 Feb 07, 9:39 PM Donnachaidh FR, 6 yrs |
Agreed. And I would hope that the fact that I KNOW that I don't get pleasure from some of the implements, yet do from pin wheels, shows that I have tried them. Donnachaidh
There are 10 types of people. Those who do understand binary, and those who don't. | ||
| 2 Feb 07, 10:21 PM MadamRattan UK(NE), 6 yrs £ |
In principle I think that this is an excellant philosophy, however I only tend to try the things that I can actually use on myself, and thats a bit difficult with the canes, except for using them on legs, but possible with other toys. I think its important to understand and appreciate the severity of the pain that you are inflicting, even though everyone has different pain thresholds, you can still get an idea of the level of severity. Though I must confess, needle play isnt one that appeals to me personally, but then caning does not appeal to everyone either!! It looks lovely though!! | ||
| 3 Feb 07, 1:05 AM Dimitri100 UK(KT), 8 yrs |
I always try it on myself first. And if I don't like it I try it again just to make sure I don't like it. And then if I REALLY don't like it - I then try it on my sub | ||
| 3 Feb 07, 1:51 AM Slavebinder UK(PE), 6 yrs |
There has been a quote that says along the lines of 'All good Dom/mes should be prepared to try out on themselves what they do to others'. I've tried needles on myself so I know what they feel like. If you're a Mistress and carry out CBT on a male sub then by that token you should have tried some vaginal torture on yourself. But then again some people do, some don't - it's not odd and it's up to you if you want to try things out first.
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