I will fight you until you make me submit... (78)

Came across this in a profile and I wonder what sort of response it stirs up to another person reading that same line.

In myself I can't help thinking... a fight sounds like way too much work.

V

Further thoughts : Strangely enough it is exactly something I would say myself... ironic

Edited Thu 14 Dec 06, 2:39 AM by Violently

I think power exchange is the hottest thing out their. Someone who pushes, fights and resists is, in my opinion, someone well worth the time and effort.

I once had a sub that used to do stupid things to try to get into trouble. She would then pretend to put on a major sulk because she never got her own way. This kind of destructive play turned me cold.

Power exchange is totally different and should never be confused with someone 'trying it on'. Power exchange is about pushing all boundaries. It's about sex in its most primitive state. It's raw energy at it's finest and it's something that probably gives me more satisfaction than anything else.

when i'm in the mood, the faint hearted amongst you better wear a nappy
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Edited 14 Dec 06, 9:32 AM by H9_Danny

Toak

I couldn't have put it better myself. To find someone, intelligent, gutsy and fast enough to be one step ahead of me all the way is one hell of a rush and nothing can beat that IMO.

Alot of people just dont get it...it's not about bratting, it's about taking someone with fears and boundaries in to a place where you as their domme are the only rule maker and when that's achieved then I know I can really fly.

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My first thought also. Plus I can't quite imagine how that fits in with my idea of how a submisive response works. At best is suggests someone whose submision *only* responds to force. There's nothing wrong with that, but it's not for me.

- Chris

"I have made this letter longer, because I have not had the time to make it shorter." - Blaise Pascal

Count me in.

There are so many cool nuances of D/s that can't be achieved when the submissive is more interested in resisting than serving.

Freudian slip: When you say one thing but mean your mother.
Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.

True, but in my experience force isn't the best (and certainly not the most subtle) way to overcome such resistance.

- Chris

"I have made this letter longer, because I have not had the time to make it shorter." - Blaise Pascal

well, when you put it that way, I totally agree, and... I know that I, personally, would be more inclined to walk away from a resisting submissive than allow them the time to learn the error of their ways.

Perhaps it's down to my patience, but not a lot of people get that kind of time out of me.

I'm also the sort who is immediately disinterested when a submissive is "new". Training is such a chore and at times a necessary evil.

Freudian slip: When you say one thing but mean your mother.
Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.

Edited 14 Dec 06, 10:18 AM by NinjaBitch

Like everything, there is a time and place for this. Head fucking someone into total submission is something I love. Having them be compliant to my every want and need, is something I must have. For me to say "do" and a sub to say "no" is not something I have time for. Total obedience from a submissive is a good journey.

The dynamics of 'power exchange' is another avenue.

When I think how many people I have seen being bondaged up and suspended. The subject stands obediently and allows the ropes to be threaded and knotted around the body. The final result is a good picture but the getting their can be so (yawn) boring. I recently watched Bruce tie a girl up. She struggled and lashed out. She spat, she swore and she tried to take a few swipes at him. He masterly controlled her and eventually she was humbled in her restraints. Her face was flushed, her body exhausted as she was forced into submission. The whole scene was full of life and energy. When ever I think about that scene, I think about the realness of it and god damn it makes me hot!!!

when i'm in the mood, the faint hearted amongst you better wear a nappy
www.infernalmechanix.com www.clubhades.co.uk

I tend to see take down scenes as something different from what the OP implies, which is an ongoing use of force to exact submision.

- Chris

"I have made this letter longer, because I have not had the time to make it shorter." - Blaise Pascal