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Posted by DK1369 on Tue 10 Oct 06, 1:00 PM to DK1369's blog.

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10 Oct 06, 1:27 PM
ThedaVamp
UK, 6 yrs
DarkKnight1369 wrote:

Where were you ?

Some of us where there and are still there in spite of the losses.

Protest is not just a question of winning, it's the only thing we can do, even if we aren't allowed do it outside the corridors of power anymore, some of us still do, no matter the consequence.

It's the ability to shout, stamp our feet, scream to the heavens "This is wrong!" and get others to do the same.

It's the only power we have.

http://imafeministand.blogspot.com/

10 Oct 06, 1:35 PM
DK1369
UK(M), 9 yrs
Thedavamp wrote:
DarkKnight1369 wrote:

Where were you ?

Some of us where there and are still there in spite of the losses.

Protest is not just a question of winning, it's the only thing we can do, even if we aren't allowed do it outside the corridors of power anymore, some of us still do, no matter the consequence.

It's the ability to shout, stamp our feet, scream to the heavens "This is wrong!" and get others to do the same.

It's the only power we have.

Totally agree...it wasn't a criticism to those that do...more a surely we can do something more active plea.

There is a part of me that wonders whether I really want to stand alongside people who only care about themselves.

If enough people care and stand up for their beliefs, no matter what, then anything can be achieved.

I understand that people think that they have a lot to lose and I know I don't see life that way.... ...but this said it all for me...

http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/boards/activism...

See good and evil as the same: both are merely God's play. ( Vivekananda)
THE MORE FREELY I BREATHE, THE MORE I SEE WHO I AM. THE MORE I SEE WHO I AM, THE MORE I LOVE WHAT I SEE!

10 Oct 06, 1:42 PM
DK1369
UK(M), 9 yrs
icespice wrote:
:-)

I think I hear all that you are saying. But what actions could change this do you think that are not already being taken? It would appear that people are peacefully trying to put their points across, without going to the picket lines and fighting on the terraces, and many wwere in the places that you ask if they were there. Would actually taking to streets and causing people to hate us more because we disrupt their shopping trip or getting to work really acheive what is needed?

I am curious. What exactly do you propose as an alternative? I may not have heard well enough to pick up the message correctly.

Great blog though. Passionate. Best wishes

I hold my hands up...I have done nothing for this...but I am ready....In the words of Alan Bleasdale " Gissa job"

It is not about fighting necessarily, Ghandi proved that point, but it is about being seen, being heard.

It is about fighting the weakness, the vagueness...It is about taking it away from pornography to an extent...It has to be seen to affect more people not just our community.

See good and evil as the same: both are merely God's play. ( Vivekananda)
THE MORE FREELY I BREATHE, THE MORE I SEE WHO I AM. THE MORE I SEE WHO I AM, THE MORE I LOVE WHAT I SEE!

10 Oct 06, 2:30 PM
Rosalee
UK, 7 yrs
This isn't really about pornography. It's about civil liberties. It's about being able to think and fantasise without being penalised for it; about the attempt to introduce thought crime. An image could become illegal to look at if it was decided it was produced solely for sexual purposes. A virtually identical image taken from a mainstream film, for example probably wouldn't be illegal to look at.

I think it's another of a number of laws that are being introduced, that are apparently aimed at minorities, that chip away at our freedoms as a society bit by bit. I don't think it's a coincidence that it may be seen as 'not important' or a minority issue. I think that's probably quite deliberate. Porn is an easy target. People with BDSM sexualities are an easy target.

I think it is linked to some of the other issues you mention. Like ID cards, like globalisation. Amongst other effects all these things will lead to more control of the many by the few. Less choice, less freedom. And I think they all need to be fought and resisted.

http://www.fiawol.demon.co.uk/FAC/

10 Oct 06, 2:55 PM
pack_of_crayons
UK(N), 6 yrs
In all due respect...

Bollocks.

If you can spend the time and energy writing a blog about why you cant blog for backlash, then surely you could have spent half that time doing a blog FOR backlash, for all those people who ARE trying - through action- to stand up for YOUR human rights.

As said above, we are doing this through the only action we can. If you dont think the blogs made by people over the past couple of days showing their support for backlash is a good thing, then why dont *you* take over what looks like a very difficult job..where should we march? where should we picket?

And yes, those things you have listed are lost, but at least we can say we tried.

All you seem to have done is put a dampener on what has been a community activity.

And quite frankly, I think we could have done without it.

"I'm playing all the right notes. Just not *necessarily*, in the right order." Eric Morecombe

10 Oct 06, 5:01 PM
dawntigga
6 yrs
DarkKnight1369 wrote:
Where were you when The miners fought the cause? Loss Where were you when The shipyards closed? Loss Where were you when Clause 28 came in? Loss Where were you at Greenham common et al? Loss Where were you at Newbury et al? Loss Where were you at the Poll tax demos? Loss ( backdoor) Where were you at the antiwar demos? Loss Where were you at the anti nazi league marches? Loss (bnp) Where were you with fathers rights? Losing ........ ....... the list is endless but where were you?

Right there love. I was right there. I find the fact that you've decided that I wasn't in a sweeping fucking blanket statement just a bit fucking much to be perfectly honest.

Dawn

Average, everyday, sane, psycho, angel goddess:-D
Standard examiner:-D
I mock you with my monkey pants!

10 Oct 06, 9:53 PM
DK1369
UK(M), 9 yrs
pack_of_crayons wrote:
In all due respect...

Bollocks.

Thanks for your tolerance.

pack_of_crayons wrote:
If you can spend the time and energy writing a blog about why you cant blog for backlash, then surely you could have spent half that time doing a blog FOR backlash, for all those people who ARE trying - through action- to stand up for YOUR human rights.

I take it you didn't read the blog for backlash that followed this.....Oh and by the way No one but myself can stand up for MY human rights.

pack_of_crayons wrote:
As said above, we are doing this through the only action we can. If you dont think the blogs made by people over the past couple of days showing their support for backlash is a good thing, then why dont *you* take over what looks like a very difficult job..where should we march? where should we picket?

Your words not mine...projection of personal thoughts perhaps?

Is there an assumption that there is only one way to go about this? If there is then sadly it may not be enough, I hope I am wrong.

Yes I have thoughts and ideas, yes I would be willing to be more active but this has nothing to do with power or ego they are thoughts but I have no attachment to them....They may be of use, they may not. Sometimes a variety of brains and ideas may give different perspectives. Is there only one way?

pack_of_crayons wrote:
All you seem to have done is put a dampener on what has been a community activity.

Getting a reaction whether negative or positive is never a bad thing....There is a diversity of opinion, judge mine all you like.

pack_of_crayons wrote:
And quite frankly, I think we could have done without it.

And there was me thinking this was about the right to have freedom of choice.... ...silly me :-)

See good and evil as the same: both are merely God's play. ( Vivekananda)
THE MORE FREELY I BREATHE, THE MORE I SEE WHO I AM. THE MORE I SEE WHO I AM, THE MORE I LOVE WHAT I SEE!

11 Oct 06, 9:06 AM
LisaLJ
UK(DY), 6 yrs
I really enjoyed reading your blog...it made an interesting change. Most people will only become "active" when it is about something that directly affects them, rather than something that they know is wrong but the old "hey, let them fight that battle" comments seem to come out.

And yes, I too fall in to that category about certain issues and no, I haven't done a "Blog for Backlash" but that's mainly because I am out of sync with the "BDSM" world at the moment.

11 Oct 06, 1:14 PM
Ravager
UK(DH), 6 yrs
Re where were you re shipyards loses etc you must have a lot of spare time if you were at all those protests sory but i just feckin hate bein lectured and u cant tel me anything about shipyard / or miners losses dont even try.

So you were the only one at the barricades eh????

See im peed off believ me it takes a lot " Scrotum the hounds!!!"

Be Safe Be Happy

11 Oct 06, 2:40 PM
DK1369
UK(M), 9 yrs
Ravager wrote:
Re where were you re shipyards loses etc you must have a lot of spare time if you were at all those protests sory but i just feckin hate bein lectured and u cant tel me anything about shipyard / or miners losses dont even try.

So you were the only one at the barricades eh????

See im peed off believ me it takes a lot " Scrotum the hounds!!!"

If you take it all so personally and literally

then you might just miss the point ;-)

See good and evil as the same: both are merely God's play. ( Vivekananda)
THE MORE FREELY I BREATHE, THE MORE I SEE WHO I AM. THE MORE I SEE WHO I AM, THE MORE I LOVE WHAT I SEE!

Edited 11 Oct 06, 2:42 PM by DK1369

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