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| 9 Oct 06, 4:23 PM Swishy UK(BD), 7 yrs   |
I could have worded it better. It's the 'notoriously' part I really took exception to. We have the highest prison rate in Western Europe. | ||
| 9 Oct 06, 4:28 PM The_Dungeoneers UK(NR), 5 yrs |
Indeed there are - and every single one of them needs to be voiced in opposition to the legislation. Key points to successful opposition to legislation have always been these:- 1. The legislation will be unworkable/ineffective. 2. The legislation will not achieve its stated aims. 3. The legislation will be costly. 4. The legislation will not significantly benefit society in general. 5. The legislation will lose votes. Being 'unfair' has never been a primary argument. The state of the prisons and the backlog of court cases speaks to items 3 and potentially 5 - particularly if it results in early release of other offenders who then commit further crime. I endorse Emilys point:-
This looks like a nasty little attempt to extend the OPA powers under cover of the violent porn furore - in the hope that no one will notice it - a common trick of governments. This could be an opportunity to involve other groups who have an interest in more mainstream porn - as it seems to begin to impact upon vanillas as well. Laurence . | ||
| 9 Oct 06, 4:30 PM MissP UK(EN), 8 yrs |
Possibly linked to the fact that we have the highest number of crims The fact remains, that in the event of getting caught for a "soft" crime (which isn't terribly likely, apart from traffic offences!), the stats show that you are likely to get a caution or a suspended sentence.
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| 9 Oct 06, 4:32 PM innocent07986 UK, 6 yrs |
Simple rebuild the old World War 2 barracks around Britain and give them harsh discipline! And of course no training in how to kill ECT just in shinning shoes and lots workouts! Ridentem dicere verum quid vetat!!!!!!!!!! What prevents me from speaking the truth with a smile! | ||
| 9 Oct 06, 4:37 PM Swishy UK(BD), 7 yrs |
You've been talking to too many old gits | ||
| 9 Oct 06, 4:39 PM innocent07986 UK, 6 yrs |
lol true but i bet it would work! Ridentem dicere verum quid vetat!!!!!!!!!! What prevents me from speaking the truth with a smile! | ||
| 10 Oct 06, 12:01 AM SpikeDom1 UK(EN), 8 yrs |
To me it's not about putting people in prison (although it is a good point to make, and I made it to Baroness Scotland of Asthal http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/about-us/organisati... it's about putting people on the DNA database. Why else would a government introduce 1800 new offenses over a 10 year period without expanding prison capacity? Sign a stupid petition:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Ban_High_Heel... Edited 10 Oct 06, 12:04 AM by SpikeDom1 | ||
| 10 Oct 06, 12:08 AM masterkim UK(BS), 7 yrs |
The Government could do well to see how other europeans run their prison/penal systems, I'm thinking of Holland, hardly anyone in prison - because they have a totally different attitude, they don't lock up people generally (or so I'm led to believe).
A kiss is just a kiss, but a whiplash lasts till morning. | ||
| 10 Oct 06, 12:14 AM BadAttitude UK, 6 yrs |
Let's just hope there's still room for Tony Blair & Michael Levy. |
