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Discussion of O&P: Ownership. Possession. Consent. Responsibility. Respect. House. Service. Dignity. Authenticity. Rituals. See the group profile page for more details. Please try to use the working definitions in the O&P Wiki when making posts.
| 7 Dec 09 | O&P Manifesto, v2 (5) by Tanos | (10 Dec 09, 1:12 AM by De_Luxe) |
| Today I uploaded a revised (and hopefully final!) version of the O&P Manifesto, taking into account the feedback I've had from the threads I've been starting each week covering the ten keywords in the manifesto. [more...] | ||
| 6 Dec 09 | The Shogun and I (5) by Tanos | (8 Dec 09, 5:54 PM by Tanos) |
I watched the
Shogun
TV series again the other week. I saw it when it was first shown here in 1980,
and I finally read the book last year. Rewatching it reminded me just how
much I'd enjoyed the elements of D/s in the households and palaces, and how
much all that cute bowing and scraping influenced my tastes  [more...]
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| 4 Dec 09 | Ownership in O&P by Tanos | (4 Dec 09, 11:48 PM by Tanos) |
| This is the last of these weekly threads about the ten keywords in the O&P Manifesto, and we've finally reached Ownership. If Possession is there in the name "O&P" to include the D/s relationships, then Ownership is there for the M/s ones. [more...] | ||
| 28 Nov 09 | Service in O&P (6) by Tanos | (29 Nov 09, 6:49 PM by Owned_by_De_Luxe) |
| Being served is one of the principal reasons why owners and dominants invest their time in establishing O&P relationships. Service is not limited to the stereotype of domestic work plus sexual use, but can also include companionship, acting as a social secretary, managing accounts, improving the house, and learning new skills. Service reinforces the difference in status between servant and master, and provides opportunities to overcome feelings of false entitlement and misplaced pride. And yet good service is also something to take pride [more...] | ||
| 16 Oct 09 | Consent in O&P (4) by Tanos | (27 Nov 09, 12:39 PM by De_Luxe) |
| I think that every consensual D/s or BDSM framework needs to spell out how it deals with consent because of the role consent plays in setting boundaries to the dominant's power. This raises the question of where the requirement for consent comes from: is it an axiomatic, foundational principle which is just agreed on; does it derive from, say, concepts of human rights; or does it come from something more fundamental? [more...] | ||
| 30 Oct 09 | Dignity in O&P (6) by Tanos | (27 Nov 09, 9:59 AM by Belasarius) |
| Dignity is not a very fashionable concept now. You might be thinking it's a stuffy word or even pompous. But its use in the O&P Manifesto is about self-respect and having personal standards, rather than about self-importance. [more...] | ||
| 15 Nov 09 | Gender difference? (6) by socair | (18 Nov 09, 8:04 PM by socair) |
| Since this group began 32 different people have written and most posts have been supportive of O&P. [more...] | ||
| 5 Nov 09 | The Possession in O&P (17) by Tanos | (12 Nov 09, 8:53 AM by Ms_Valentine) |
| Possession is the only really new concept in the O&P Manifesto, and approximately represents the "D/s" half of O&P. [more...] | ||
| 8 Oct 09 | Houses and households in O&P (12) by Tanos | (11 Nov 09, 10:38 AM by Belasarius) |
| Since O&P is built up using concepts of property, it is natural to use property itself, in the form of the house, as a metaphor for the relationship. [more...] | ||
| 23 Oct 09 | What topics interest you? (4) by cinder | (1 Nov 09, 7:30 PM by De_Luxe) |
| I noticed that every thread is started by Tanos, am I the only blonde that thought he could be the only thread starter? (I'm brunette btw). [more...] | ||
| 22 Oct 09 | Respect in O&P (3) by Tanos | (30 Oct 09, 10:46 AM by TheFalconer) |
| One of questions that comes up repeatedly in D/s and M/s forums is what protocols and etiquette are appropriate amongst groups of D/s or M/s people. For instance, should submissives defer to other dominants? Should owners speak to others' slaves directly? [more...] | ||
| 1 Oct 09 | Structure in O&P (8) by Tanos | (11 Oct 09, 5:05 PM by TheFalconer) |
| I've seen 24/7 D/s and especially M/s described as "structured relationships" in the past, notably by Jack McGeorge who died recently. O&P explicitly refers to the way the structure of these relationships provides clarity and purpose, as people know where they stand in the hierarchy and what are supposed to be doing. [more...] | ||
| 17 Sep 09 | Authenticity (6) by Tanos | (8 Oct 09, 10:48 PM by TheFalconer) |
| Last week I started a thread on Informed Consent about the way "true" and "real" are used in D/s and M/s. People, especially new people, post on forums about "true dominants" or "real submissives", and explain their frustration with time-wasters, liars, guys who'll play along with D/s to get some kinky sex, etc etc. [more...] | ||
| 14 Sep 09 | O&P vs D/s (and M/s) (9) by Tanos | (7 Oct 09, 7:45 AM by cinder) |
| O&P is really a different name for part of D/s and almost all of M/s. [more...] | ||
| 22 Sep 09 | Rituals and O&P (4) by Tanos | (30 Sep 09, 10:43 PM by fuschia) |
| A ritual is a set of actions mainly performed for their symbolic meaning, rather than purely for their practical result. O&P uses rituals to reinforce and maintain feelings of ownership and possession. For example, if a slave must always ask their owner's permission to leave the room, the purpose is not only to determine whether it is convenient for the slave to be absent, but to reinforce the owner's general authority over the slave's actions. [more...] | ||
| 15 Sep 09 | O&P vs Taken in Hand (2) by Tanos | (22 Sep 09, 10:13 AM by not_just_another) |
This came up on another thread, but I think it deserves its own one too  [more...]
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