Hard spanking question... (14)

Tue 24 Jun 08, 11:47 PM
Maleficent_smiles
UK, 3 yrs
I usually concentrate on the more psychological aspects of BDSM play, but a lovely guy convinced me to do a spanking-only session with him, and given I do like spanking, I decided to give it a go, despite not having tons of experience with it...
Thankfully, it went really well, he brought with him a gorgeous collection of superb wooden paddles, and we thoroughly enjoyed ourselves.
But there was one thing that I didn't really know how to handle perfectly: I spent ages warming him up, and ended up with quite a lot of really hard strokes after a while, at which point his now very red and blueish bum cheeks started to slightly bleed, a few tiny drops of blood made their way periodically through the skin...I stopped the moment this started to happen, and thank feck, the timing was good, given we have reached the end of the agreed session...But he said he would have loooved to go on, and get spanked even longer and harder...He then proceeded to yelp as I cleaned and disinfected the area...
So my stupid questions are these (I say stupid, since I am pretty sure there is no miracle answer, or the answer is obvious, but I am hoping that a spanking enthusiast out there might have a trick up their sleeve): is there any way to postpone the breaking of skin? And do some people usually keep on going after the skin has been broken?
"Uplasi me sjaj milion sveca kad se nebom popali. Gde je tome kraj? Za kog su tako dubok zdenac kopali? Zasto se sve to desava, dal covek ista resava, il' smo samo tu zbog ravnoteze medu zvezdama?"
Edited Wed 2 Jul 08, 10:32 PM by Maleficent_smiles

25 Jun 08, 8:41 AM
MistressLadyAnna
UK, 21 mths£
Did you use only paddles? If so I suggest you use your hand to warm up and only use the paddles when your hand is about to drop off.
"If no sexual offence is being committed it seems very odd indeed that there should be an offence for having an image of something which was not an offence," Lord Wallace of Tankerness
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25 Jun 08, 10:29 AM
Mistress_Sapphire
UK, 7 yrs£
First.....I dont think you are asking stupid questions. Second......how long is a piece of string?
Everyboby has a different tolerance to a spanking/caning/flogging etc. Not everyone has a backside like a new born or a rhino. Without it sounding OTT, I have drawn blood with a spanking with my hand. It was where the fingers meet together and acted a little like a love bite where the blood is drawn to the surface as your hand raises for the next whack.
Wooden implements are very unforgiving, so my suggestion would be as Lady Anna says, warm up gently with the hand to get the blood circulating but then I would use leather paddles as they are more flexable........then go for the wooden ones. He might still bleed, but I would put money on it that it would take a lot longer.
As regards would I carry on if I drew blood....personally yes, but it would of been agreed to previously in a Pro session. In a lifestyle one........also yes.
If you are not happy drawing blood etc.....then don't, only do the things that you are happy doing.
ETA......Only just realised .........why is this in the PRO forum?

Edited 25 Jun 08, 10:44 AM by Mistress_Sapphire

25 Jun 08, 11:55 AM
Maleficent_smiles
UK, 3 yrs
Heh, it is on the Pro-forum because I tend to get focused, serious responses on here to specific questions, not to mention that I couldn't be bothered with the odd comment here and there that I would inevitably get if mentioning I play with "clients"...It tends to be a bit more civilised here sometimes, that's all...
I did do a long warm up with my hand (about half an hour), but then I went straight to the paddles...So you two think it is about the warm up then? As in, the skin becomes more supple, less likely to break? I wasn't sure if the repetition just makes the skin "thinner" and more likely to bleed...
Good to know that some go beyond the bleeding, it seems it will be inevitable...Wooden paddles are evil, I've never used them before, and now I really like them...
"Uplasi me sjaj milion sveca kad se nebom popali. Gde je tome kraj? Za kog su tako dubok zdenac kopali? Zasto se sve to desava, dal covek ista resava, il' smo samo tu zbog ravnoteze medu zvezdama?"

25 Jun 08, 5:57 PM
Jahc99
UK, 2 yrs
Try giving it a break for ten minutes or so. Warm up, hand, flogger maybe, then a rest. Start again a little below the intensity you last reached, build it up some more. Then a wee break - maybe change the bondage or something. There is good head fuckology in this also, for each time you restart, it will sting like a bastard, and each time you stop, they will be gagging for more.
Again, start again a bit below the intensity you were at last time, build it up more. And so on. The longer the break you give him, the more you need to back off from the peak reached before, untill you hit the point where it's time to go hell for leather, so to speak.
Try it - it works.
And those little blood spots don't really matter, usual procedure with the red stuff. It's really just the sign of a happy botty!

25 Jun 08, 6:18 PM
houseboy77
UK, 3 yrs my 2-pennyw'th:
The more regularly you spank a naughty bott, the more accustomed the skin there will become to increasingly savage punishments. ie. less blood.
Also, unless you both enjoy the pain of the clean-up process, [& you may well be doing thiss already, but] post-torture use icecubes. It's soothing for him, and amusing to see how quickly that stuff melts on a recently red [purple], welted behind. + the cold closes the pores which in itslef will tend to arrest most blood-spots.
All very technical-sounding, and i don't profess to have any particularly expert knowledge [cue for a list of posts to tell me how wrong i am].

25 Jun 08, 6:28 PM
Jahc99
UK, 2 yrs
Ice cubes are good - so are fistfulls of chain, straight out of the freezer....

26 Jun 08, 6:12 AM
Ken_Douglas
UK, 6 yrs There is some excellent advise on this posting.
I agree that individual tolerances are different and that through time the bottom builds up some level of resistance to marking and bleeding.
Jahc99's advice about stopping and starting is so very true. It allows for a very lengthy intense spanking to take place.
I have on occasion been spanked (and caned) so hard and for so long that my bottom goes through various colour stages - from white to red then finishing up crimson/red with areas that have been severely paddled returning to a silvery/white colour.
Not sure what causes the "white effect" other than that Mistress says my bottom is like leather and takes her punishments well

My Mistress
Mistress Lorraine

26 Jun 08, 9:04 AM
LadyPandoraCP
UK, 2 yrs To me, a wooden paddle = a lump of 4x2. They tend to leave oval bruises and numb the area quite quickly. Now I like a sub the feel everything I am doing to them, so I tend not use use wooden paddles.
Why not incorporate slippers, plimsols, leather paddles, straps, tawses, etc. instead? Even a wooden hairbrush only needs to be flicked to produce a jump, specially when used repeatedly just on the sit spot (the couple of inches where the bum and leg meet) as it leaves a lovely pulling feeling for the next couple of days as a reminder.
Depending on how sadistic you're feeling, have a break when you want one ... the longer the break, the more tender the area will be when you resume.
I've broken the skin with just my hand before (as have others, not claiming any super powers!) and a wooden paddle will certainly cause it to split more quickly than leather implements. It depends on both you and the person you are playing with as to whether you stop or continue at that stage. If using leather implements, use the smooth, shiny side - more stingy and easier to clean.
Hope this helps.
Regards, Lady Pandora
Some people say I'm a bitch, that's just not true - I have the heart and soul of a kind and gentle person ... in a jar, on my desk, next to my cane.
And you are? And your opinion means what, to me, precisely?
Edited 26 Jun 08, 11:36 AM by LadyPandoraCP

26 Jun 08, 9:14 AM
MistressRouge
UK, 3 yrs£
Wooden implements do not allow the force of impact to disperse/absorb evenly, with each paddle stroke, unlike leather.
The impact has much more force, and is more of a thuddy sting, even with mild force.
I do much prefer to warm up with the palm of the hand firstly, then move onto leather implements, then finally wooden.
I agree with the stopping and starting, hand spank to implement, back to hand spank, that is my style of Domination. Varying intensity, allowing the buttocks to recover, then follow through again.
I have never drawn blood with a hand spanking as yet, but have with implements, especially the cane yum.
Nothing more satisfying then admiring, my paralell, crimson striped art lol
" The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it. Resist it and your soul grows sick with longing, for the things it has forbidden itself" Oscar Wilde

26 Jun 08, 7:56 PM
Maleficent_smiles
UK, 3 yrs
Thank you so much everyone, that was really helpful...I am looking forward to experimenting and developing the techniques, it was already a good experience, so making it even better is a great bonus...
"Uplasi me sjaj milion sveca kad se nebom popali. Gde je tome kraj? Za kog su tako dubok zdenac kopali? Zasto se sve to desava, dal covek ista resava, il' smo samo tu zbog ravnoteze medu zvezdama?"
Edited 26 Jun 08, 7:57 PM by Maleficent_smiles

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