Understanding Financial Domination?!?! (40)

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Mon 26 Mar 07, 3:46 PM
slave_c28
UK, 2 yrs I am keen to learn more about Financial Domination (“FD”), it's something that I think I grab the concept of (or maybe not) but would like to better understand it from a submissives / slaves point of view, in particular someone that is interested and involved in FD.
I would also very much welcome input from FD Mistresses, does it work? Are the FD subs reliable? If anything do they want/need something in return?
My concept is that FD is when a sub donates money on a regular basis to their / a domme for nothing in return, the act of donating is enough of a return for them.
Do many subs here do this or know someone that does this, and is my basic grasp correct?
Do FD subs donate to just a single domme or do they do this to multiple dommes at the same time?
How does a sub go about finding a FD domme to donate to, and once found what are the subs pre-requisites required for them to start such donations?
Typically how long are such donations made for?
Sorry but this is a very personal question, but again I am trying to better understand FD, what frequency and amounts tend to be given?
Is it solely the giving or do FD slaves seek something in return? And if so what?
Going to the extreme are there any subs out there that hand over their 'disposable income' to their Mistress or Owner only to receive back what the domme thinks is acceptable for the sub to live on?
No doub't I've missed some very important points, but I hoping to start a discussion where I can learn and better understand FD, thank you all in advance for you assistance and input.
Julian
Gratitude is the memory of the heart.
slave c28

26 Mar 07, 4:10 PM
RavenMuse
UK(CR), 2 yrs
fireglow wrote:
May I ask a question too please, whilst people are answering the OP?. Is FD something which only male subs do with Dommes or do some female subs ever do it with their male Doms?
It is certainly something I have only ever encountered OFFline on the F/m side of things but I am sure there are leaches... I mean 'financial doms' out there on the M/f side too.

26 Mar 07, 4:10 PM
Bubbles_2
UK, 3 yrs

fireglow wrote:
May I ask a question too please, whilst people are answering the OP?. Is FD something which only male subs do with Dommes or do some female subs ever do it with their male Doms?
fg x
Is marriage a form of Financial Domination?
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26 Mar 07, 4:13 PM
Belasarius
UK(M), 5 yrs
Y!

fireglow wrote:
May I ask a question too please, whilst people are answering the OP?. Is FD something which only male subs do with Dommes or do some female subs ever do it with their male Doms?
fg x
Please see my weblog on this topic:
http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/weblogs/Belasar...

26 Mar 07, 4:18 PM
Cinnamon_Tart
UK(S), 2 yrs

slave_c28 wrote:
"...Going to the extreme are there any subs out there that hand over their 'disposable income' to their Mistress or Owner only to receive back what the domme thinks is acceptable for the sub to live on?..."

We engage in this sort of game. I think he enjoys it as an aspect of my control over him. He's the sole breadwinner, and yet he wants to have NO MONEY at his disposal other than what I "give him". So I control the bank accounts etc.
This is to the extent that he asks for permission to use his credit cards, cheque book, to withdraw cash, and have any spending money for himself.
It's a game for us, which works very well, and I pay for everything when he and I go out anywhere together.
I guess many would argue many marriages work like this anyway: bloke earns, woman spends *grin. But this is a sort of ritualised power exchange game, in which he enjoys being punished if he transgresses.
He never has any money on him, and must ask for cash when he has errands to run.
Obviously, there is utter trust and respect on both sides. I would never dream of abusing his desire for such control.
NB We also have "safety" measures in place, in terms of him always having his credit/debit cards on him should he need access to money (he just has to call me first, or withdraw funds and "suffer the consequences" *grin. )
Rach

26 Mar 07, 4:25 PM
RavenMuse
UK(CR), 2 yrs
Cinnamon_Tart wrote:
We engage in this sort of game. I think he enjoys it as an aspect of my control over him. He's the sole breadwinner, and yet he wants to have NO MONEY at his disposal other than what I "give him". So I control the bank accounts etc.
This is to the extent that he asks for permission to use his credit cards, cheque book, to withdraw cash, and have any spending money for himself.
It's a game for us, which works very well, and I pay for everything when he and I go out anywhere together.
I guess many would argue many marriages work like this anyway: bloke earns, woman spends *grin. But this is a sort of ritualised power exchange game, in which he enjoys being punished if he transgresses.
He never has any money on him, and must ask for cash when he has errands to run.
Obviously, there is utter trust and respect on both sides. I would never dream of abusing his desire for such control.
NB We also have "safety" measures in place, in terms of him always having his credit/debit cards on him should he need access to money (he just has to call me first, or withdraw funds and "suffer the consequences" *grin. )
There is a big diffrence in a D/s relationship where responcibility for finances is handled by the Dom and permission required by the sub to step outside that which is already agreed as standing proccedure... and 'financial Dominantion' whereby the financial arrangement is the focus and 'reason' why the Dom is there.

26 Mar 07, 4:26 PM
Belasarius
UK(M), 5 yrs
Y!
Sounds very much like the games "we" once played> Actually, not right to call them games.
But yes, she liked the feeling of utter dependency.
BeLuS
(good to see you btw Ms Cinnamon)

26 Mar 07, 4:29 PM
Cinnamon_Tart
UK(S), 2 yrs

RavenMuse wrote:
There is a big diffrence in a D/s relationship where responcibility for finances is handled by the Dom and permission required by the sub to step outside that which is already agreed as standing proccedure... and 'financial Dominantion' whereby the financial arrangement is the focus and 'reason' why the Dom is there.
I know nothing about those relationships, and was only responding to the one specific question raised by the OP.

26 Mar 07, 4:32 PM
chartreuse
UK(BA), 2 yrs
I have difficulty understanding FD.... outside of a partnership/marriage.
I can see that it would work, quite easily when it is agreed between a couple but for a person to be financially dominated by a remote/unknown stranger seems a bit risky to me.
C x

26 Mar 07, 4:33 PM
Cinnamon_Tart
UK(S), 2 yrs
Why ty, Belasarius, you too.
Don't you think they are games?
My take on Ds is that it's ALL games. But, like all games, one can play at any number of levels. And just cos it's a game doesn't mean it ain't serious. Or that you can't hurt/get hurt.
We are the otters of the universe after all.
Rach

Belasarius wrote:
Sounds very much like the games "we" once played> Actually, not right to call them games.
But yes, she liked the feeling of utter dependency.
BeLuS
(good to see you btw Ms Cinnamon)

26 Mar 07, 4:54 PM
Belasarius
UK(M), 5 yrs
Y!

Cinnamon_Tart wrote:
Why ty, Belasarius, you too.
Don't you think they are games?
My take on Ds is that it's ALL games. But, like all games, one can play at any number of levels. And just cos it's a game doesn't mean it ain't serious. Or that you can't hurt/get hurt.
We are the otters of the universe after all.
Rach
You know you are right - in that we wouldn't do it if we didn't enjoy it - or if we didn't know the person who is our missing piece needed it/enjoyed it. But, the highet the level you decide to play the game, the more you have to rtain - and the less like a game it seems.
BeLuS

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