NoTW rolls out Ex Archbishop in its defense (65)

Sat 26 Jul 08, 5:54 PM
Redhead777
CH, 6 mths 'Writing in the News of the World Lord Carey, who was the Archbishop of Canterbury from 1991 to 2002, claimed 'most people' would ridicule Mosley's defence.
He said: “If a politician, a judge, a bishop or any public figure cannot keep their promises to a wife, husband, etc, how can they be trusted to honour pledges to their constituencies and people they serve?”
“This is a bleak, deeply-flawed 'anything goes' philosophy. It is also dangerous and socially undermining - devoid of the basic,decent moral standards that form the very fabric of our society.”'
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article...
Wow, NoWT getting on its moral high horse.
R
Edited Sat 26 Jul 08, 5:59 PM by Redhead777

26 Jul 08, 6:35 PM
Mr_Gormsby
UK, 7 mths
Christ alive, Lord Carey sounds more like Oswald Mosley's son than Max does.
From his wikipedia page:
"He presided over the Lambeth Conference of 1998 and actively supported the resolution at that Conference which uncompromisingly rejected all homosexual practice as "incompatible with scripture". Carey was criticised for his lack of neutrality on the issue by those attempting to rescue a compromise position which had been presented to the conference by a working group of Bishops on human sexuality. George Carey also voted against an express condemnation (which had been present in the original form of the resolution) of homophobia."
"In 1998, he made a public call for the humane treatment of General Augusto Pinochet, the former dictator of Chile, who was at the time in custody in the UK."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Carey
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26 Jul 08, 6:43 PM
Shibari_Cognoscenti
UK(TN), 3 yrs
I wonder what the Bull buggering, baby eating Bishop of Bath and Wells and his ilk would have to say?
The moralising bastards of every religion should just FUCK OFF AND DIE!
S_C

26 Jul 08, 6:50 PM
Sorceror
UK, 5 yrs

Shibari_Cognoscenti wrote:
I wonder what the Bull buggering, baby eating Bishop of Bath and Wells and his ilk would have to say?
The moralising bastards of every religion should just FUCK OFF AND DIE!
S_C
Except -
1) Those fighting tyranny and oppression in dictatorships. 2) Those providing comfort to the bereaved and the lonely. 3) Those who condemn all forms of discrimination and oppression 4) Those ministering to the poor who otherwise would not have any support. 5) Those...
You get the idea anyway.
We should no more condemn all religious leaders than all religious leaders should condemn us.
S....x.

26 Jul 08, 6:52 PM
Costigan
UK, 2 yrs
One of the two candidates for the Presidency of the Liberal Democrats, Baroness Ros Scott, has come out firmly on the side of privacy.
http://baronessrosscott.blogspot.com/2008/07/if-...

26 Jul 08, 6:58 PM
mrandy
UK, 13 mths

Sorceror wrote:

Shibari_Cognoscenti wrote:
I wonder what the Bull buggering, baby eating Bishop of Bath and Wells and his ilk would have to say?
The moralising bastards of every religion should just FUCK OFF AND DIE!
S_C
Except -
1) Those fighting tyranny and oppression in dictatorships. 2) Those providing comfort to the bereaved and the lonely. 3) Those who condemn all forms of discrimination and oppression 4) Those ministering to the poor who otherwise would not have any support. 5) Those...
You get the idea anyway.
We should no more condemn all religious leaders than all religious leaders should condemn us.
S....x.

For example South African Bishop Desmond Tutu. A very decent and humane man. But I do have to say that the attitude towards sex by most religions is very reactionary.

26 Jul 08, 6:59 PM
Shibari_Cognoscenti
UK(TN), 3 yrs

Sorceror wrote:

Shibari_Cognoscenti wrote:
I wonder what the Bull buggering, baby eating Bishop of Bath and Wells and his ilk would have to say?
The moralising bastards of every religion should just FUCK OFF AND DIE!
S_C
Except -
1) Those fighting tyranny and oppression in dictatorships. 2) Those providing comfort to the bereaved and the lonely. 3) Those who condemn all forms of discrimination and oppression 4) Those ministering to the poor who otherwise would not have any support. 5) Those...
You get the idea anyway.
We should no more condemn all religious leaders than all religious leaders should condemn us.
S....x.

I specified Moralising
While there are good people in all religions. The institutions they represent can all be held to account for their failings. So they have no moral high ground from which to preach.
S_C
S_C

26 Jul 08, 7:01 PM
ClassAct2005
UK, 3 yrs
I was more interested in what Woman E has been saying to Sky News for £10,000, that there were no Nazi over tones to the scene and yet she swore in her statement as I think did her husband that there were. So she must have been lying either on Sky News or on the statement. Says she'd now like to apologise to MM, presumably because he's now about to start suing people for libel and no one caused him a greater problem than she did.

26 Jul 08, 7:09 PM
Mr_Gormsby
UK, 7 mths
I think he will tend to pass her over as small fry. He might be concerned that the court would take the view that he was using his wealth as a weapon against someone that couldn't adequately defend themselves.
I can't say that Women A-D will take the same view though.
Given the similarity of their positions, are they able to take a joint action?
Regarding Woman E's statement, I think Thurlbeck admitted in court that a statement was prepared by the the NOTW for her to sign, and not without some duress.
"Because it is Auda's pleasure!"
Edited 26 Jul 08, 7:12 PM by Mr_Gormsby

26 Jul 08, 7:19 PM
WickedHands
UK, 7 yrs
Redhead777 wrote:
NoTW rolls out Ex Archbishop in its defense
'Writing in the News of the World Lord Carey, who was the Archbishop of Canterbury from 1991 to 2002, claimed 'most people' would ridicule Mosley's defence.
He said: “If a politician, a judge, a bishop or any public figure cannot keep their promises to a wife, husband, etc, how can they be trusted to honour pledges to their constituencies and people they serve?”
“This is a bleak, deeply-flawed 'anything goes' philosophy. It is also dangerous and socially undermining - devoid of the basic,decent moral standards that form the very fabric of our society.”'
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article...
Wow, NoWT getting on its moral high horse.
R
Stating the blindingly obvious, but the said Archbishop appears to have conveniently overlooked one rather important fact: Mosley is/was not serving in public office. It happens to be a high profile position that garners publicity, but that isn't the same as "serving" public office.

26 Jul 08, 7:28 PM
Mr_Gormsby
UK, 7 mths
I would expect a former archbishop to keep better company than the NOTW. By writing for them he lends an undeserved air of legitimacy to their nasty little rag.
"Because it is Auda's pleasure!"

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