George Orwell's diaries (13)

Sat 26 Jul 08, 10:31 AM
spirifer
UK, 3 yrs

The website for the Orwell Prize, awarded for political writing, is to mark the 70th anniversary of the release of George Orwell's diaries by running them as a blog. It begins with Orwell's first entry in 1938. We look forward to the prophetic writer's teasing entry of August 29, 1939: “Miscellaneous: It appears from reliable private information that Sir O. Mosley is a masochist of the extreme type in his sexual life.”

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_...
An interesting addition to the BDSM nature/nurture debate.
The state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation - Pierre Trudeau
Doms - women will fancy you if they see you kicking the shit out of a weasel.

26 Jul 08, 10:42 AM
mrandy
UK, 12 mths

spirifer wrote:
George Orwell's diaries

The website for the Orwell Prize, awarded for political writing, is to mark the 70th anniversary of the release of George Orwell's diaries by running them as a blog. It begins with Orwell's first entry in 1938. We look forward to the prophetic writer's teasing entry of August 29, 1939: “Miscellaneous: It appears from reliable private information that Sir O. Mosley is a masochist of the extreme type in his sexual life.”

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_...
An interesting addition to the BDSM nature/nurture debate.
Very interesting indeed.

26 Jul 08, 10:54 AM
Auda_abu_Tayi
UK, 6 mths I bet definitive answers could be found in Oswald Mosley's MI5 file:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2518271.stm
George Orwell's diary entry corresponds with the period immediately before Oswald Mosley's wartime internment, presumably when he was under the most intense MI5 scrutiny.
What a pity Mr & Mrs E didn't know a little more political history - Mr E could have requested a dusty old file from the archives.
In practice all Oswald Mosley's children (including Max) have a right not to have such details exposed to the media.
That BBC website article does make it clear what a nasty piece of work Oswald Mosley was though.
"Because it is Auda's pleasure!"
Edited 26 Jul 08, 11:06 AM by Auda_abu_Tayi

26 Jul 08, 1:01 PM
Master_Craftsman
UK, 2 mths
Auda_abu_Tayi wrote:
That BBC website article does make it clear what a nasty piece of work Oswald Mosley was though.
Especially if you know what to look for.
The picture of Sir Oswald Mosley seems to show him making a type of "Nazi" salute, but it wasn't the type satirised as "this is how high the shit has grown".
In the Vril Gesellschaft, there were two salutes, the Zealator Gruss (what most would call a Nazi salute) and the Inperator Gruss, where the hand is raised to be adjacent to the person's ear. His use of the latter form suggests that Mosley was at least of equal rank to Hitler in the Vril order, if not of greater seniority.

26 Jul 08, 3:15 PM
proccie
UK, 2 yrs
Ok you win. I really do not know whether you are making this up or not.
proccie

Master_Craftsman wrote:

Auda_abu_Tayi wrote:
That BBC website article does make it clear what a nasty piece of work Oswald Mosley was though.
Especially if you know what to look for.
The picture of Sir Oswald Mosley seems to show him making a type of "Nazi" salute, but it wasn't the type satirised as "this is how high the shit has grown".
In the Vril Gesellschaft, there were two salutes, the Zealator Gruss (what most would call a Nazi salute) and the Inperator Gruss, where the hand is raised to be adjacent to the person's ear. His use of the latter form suggests that Mosley was at least of equal rank to Hitler in the Vril order, if not of greater seniority.

"It would hardly be appropriate to clutter up the courts with cases of spanking between consenting adults taking place in private property and without disturbing the neighbours."
Mr Justice Eady

26 Jul 08, 4:14 PM
Master_Craftsman
UK, 2 mths
Proccie wrote:
Ok you win. I really do not know whether you are making this up or not.
proccie
I did make one mistake. The higher rank was not "Inperator" but "Imperator".
Google "Vril society"

26 Jul 08, 8:30 PM
overlap
UK, 4 yrs

spirifer wrote:

The website for the Orwell Prize, awarded for political writing, is to mark the 70th anniversary of the release of George Orwell's diaries by running them as a blog. It begins with Orwell's first entry in 1938. ...

But this makes no sense. Orwell was an inveterate writer: he would have been 35 in 1938 - he kept a diary long before then. And he wasn't remotely famous at the time, so there would have been no point in "releasing" his diaries. Even if there had been a financial incentive, he had enough catty opinions to wish to keep his observations private.
I'm pretty sure that his diaries weren't published until the 1980s at the earliest.
Christ, the Times has shit standards for journalists. It's probably a direct crib from the press release from the Orwell Prize. Nice to know that the legacy of the man who wrote Politics and the English Language is in the hands of a crew who really value clarity and honesty.
Reason is and ought to be the slave of the passions and can never pretend to any other office than to serve and obey them.
David Hume

26 Jul 08, 9:15 PM
DDDDom
3 yrs Oswald Mosley was also a Fabian as well many years before - typical swinger...

26 Jul 08, 9:42 PM
spirifer
UK, 3 yrs

overlap wrote:

spirifer wrote:

The website for the Orwell Prize, awarded for political writing, is to mark the 70th anniversary of the release of George Orwell's diaries by running them as a blog. It begins with Orwell's first entry in 1938. ...

But this makes no sense. Orwell was an inveterate writer: he would have been 35 in 1938 - he kept a diary long before then. And he wasn't remotely famous at the time, so there would have been no point in "releasing" his diaries. Even if there had been a financial incentive, he had enough catty opinions to wish to keep his observations private.
I'm pretty sure that his diaries weren't published until the 1980s at the earliest.
Christ, the Times has shit standards for journalists. It's probably a direct crib from the press release from the Orwell Prize. Nice to know that the legacy of the man who wrote Politics and the English Language is in the hands of a crew who really value clarity and honesty.
Well, the Orwell Prize website carries the link to the story I linked to, so take it up with them?
The state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation - Pierre Trudeau
Doms - women will fancy you if they see you kicking the shit out of a weasel.

26 Jul 08, 10:09 PM
DarkLordDredd
UK, 6 yrs

overlap wrote:

spirifer wrote:

The website for the Orwell Prize, awarded for political writing, is to mark the 70th anniversary of the release of George Orwell's diaries by running them as a blog. It begins with Orwell's first entry in 1938. ...

But this makes no sense. Orwell was an inveterate writer: he would have been 35 in 1938 - he kept a diary long before then. And he wasn't remotely famous at the time, so there would have been no point in "releasing" his diaries. Even if there had been a financial incentive, he had enough catty opinions to wish to keep his observations private.
I'm pretty sure that his diaries weren't published until the 1980s at the earliest.
Christ, the Times has shit standards for journalists. It's probably a direct crib from the press release from the Orwell Prize. Nice to know that the legacy of the man who wrote Politics and the English Language is in the hands of a crew who really value clarity and honesty.
Excellent site, the only part of 1984 that Orwell was incorrect was Big Brother, we had Big Sister instead lol

27 Jul 08, 12:13 AM
overlap
UK, 4 yrs

spirifer wrote:
Well, the Orwell Prize website carries the link to the story I linked to, so take it up with them?

I'm not actually having a go at you. I'm just pointing out that Orwell's diaries weren't "released" and they certainly weren't made public 70 years ago - and even if they were an entry made in 1938 would not have been in them. The article up to that point is brainless horseshit. I'm not inclined to trust the rest of it.
Reason is and ought to be the slave of the passions and can never pretend to any other office than to serve and obey them.
David Hume

Next page


	©1997-2008 Informed Consent