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Thu 24 Jul 08, 12:33 AM
pinkglitterbomb
UK, 9 mths
I think that the whole idea that people seem to be putting across with this whole Max Mosley thing (or, maybe it's the way I'm reading it) is that we should all be thankful for Mosley getting caught cause look at how wonderful it is that kink is finally getting some not so negative publicity?
I don't get that, sorry. If he's the public face of this then I'm very worried. His links to fascism, to me, are clear. If his past is so abhorrent that even the Daily Mail (who I hate with a passion) finds his politics less than tasteful, then I really think the less association something I enjoy gets with him the better. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-553408/U...)
It's already been said, but there is more to life than kink, and the right to life and to live free from persecution outweighs that, always. The kind of poison that Mosley's Dad and the Union Movement that Max is proved to have had involvement in, have no time for that. Also, lets not forget that fascist deplored not just Jews, but homosexuals, gypsies, priests poles, socialists, Jehovah's Witnesses and German's themselves, many for being disabled. (http://www.holocaust-history.org/questions/non-j...) The idea that somehow, just cause he's kinky, I have a lot to thank him for…. That's almost like saying, because I don't agree with American foreign policy, I must thank Osama bin Laden for 9/11.
Oh, and as for those that think fascism isn't a threat anymore… local election results, the London Assembly result especially, would suggest otherwise.
http://www.lovemusichateracism.com/
be nice, people!
*hugs*

24 Jul 08, 1:01 AM
Master_Craftsman
UK, 2 mths
pinkglitterbomb wrote:
More Max Mosely :OS
"More Max Mosely ", Shirley?

pinkglitterbomb wrote:
I think that the whole idea that people seem to be putting across with this whole Max Mosley thing (or, maybe it's the way I'm reading it) is that we should all be thankful for Mosley getting caught cause look at how wonderful it is that kink is finally getting some not so negative publicity?
I don't get that, sorry. If he's the public face of this then I'm very worried. His links to fascism, to me, are clear. If his past is so abhorrent that even the Daily Mail (who I hate with a passion) finds his politics less than tasteful, then I really think the less association something I enjoy gets with him the better. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-553408/U...)
There is also a point of view which may be equally or more valid: that if someone with such odious family connections and who may have had a less than wonderful past is entitled to privacy, then so should anyone.

pinkglitterbomb wrote:
It's already been said, but there is more to life than kink, and the right to life and to live free from persecution outweighs that, always. The kind of poison that Mosley's Dad and the Union Movement that Max is proved to have had involvement in, have no time for that. Also, lets not forget that fascist deplored not just Jews, but homosexuals, gypsies, priests poles, socialists, Jehovah's Witnesses and German's themselves, many for being disabled. (http://www.holocaust-history.org/questions/non-j...)
So what? Are you suggesting that people should not be permitted to believe what they like, no matter how silly, outlandish or hateful that might be? If that is indeed what you would want, how would you police it?

pinkglitterbomb wrote:
The idea that somehow, just cause he's kinky, I have a lot to thank him for…. That's almost like saying, because I don't agree with American foreign policy, I must thank Osama bin Laden for 9/11.
No, it is not.

pinkglitterbomb wrote:
Oh, and as for those that think fascism isn't a threat anymore… local election results, the London Assembly result especially, would suggest otherwise.
http://www.lovemusichateracism.com/
be nice, people!
*hugs*

So one or two nutters were elected? They'll soon be out when the voters realise that they couldn't even run a whelk stall.

24 Jul 08, 1:09 AM
nortyboy
UK, 12 mths
Master_Craftsman wrote:

pinkglitterbomb wrote:
More Max Mosely :OS
"More Max Mosely ", Shirley?

pinkglitterbomb wrote:
I think that the whole idea that people seem to be putting across with this whole Max Mosley thing (or, maybe it's the way I'm reading it) is that we should all be thankful for Mosley getting caught cause look at how wonderful it is that kink is finally getting some not so negative publicity?
I don't get that, sorry. If he's the public face of this then I'm very worried. His links to fascism, to me, are clear. If his past is so abhorrent that even the Daily Mail (who I hate with a passion) finds his politics less than tasteful, then I really think the less association something I enjoy gets with him the better. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-553408/U...)
There is also a point of view which may be equally or more valid: that if someone with such odious family connections and who may have had a less than wonderful past is entitled to privacy, then so should anyone.

pinkglitterbomb wrote:
It's already been said, but there is more to life than kink, and the right to life and to live free from persecution outweighs that, always. The kind of poison that Mosley's Dad and the Union Movement that Max is proved to have had involvement in, have no time for that. Also, lets not forget that fascist deplored not just Jews, but homosexuals, gypsies, priests poles, socialists, Jehovah's Witnesses and German's themselves, many for being disabled. (http://www.holocaust-history.org/questions/non-j...)
So what? Are you suggesting that people should not be permitted to believe what they like, no matter how silly, outlandish or hateful that might be? If that is indeed what you would want, how would you police it?

pinkglitterbomb wrote:
The idea that somehow, just cause he's kinky, I have a lot to thank him for…. That's almost like saying, because I don't agree with American foreign policy, I must thank Osama bin Laden for 9/11.
No, it is not.

pinkglitterbomb wrote:
Oh, and as for those that think fascism isn't a threat anymore… local election results, the London Assembly result especially, would suggest otherwise.
http://www.lovemusichateracism.com/
be nice, people!
*hugs*

So one or two nutters were elected? They'll soon be out when the voters realise that they couldn't even run a whelk stall.
Whats it like to have a rolemodel as a blackshirt?You simply ignore the facts and pick one tiny part of what she says .
Still i am sure you will carry on in the usual way......

24 Jul 08, 1:17 AM
strictlynormal
UK, 3 yrs

nortyboy wrote:
Whats it like to have a rolemodel as a blackshirt?You simply ignore the facts and pick one tiny part of what she says .
Still i am sure you will carry on in the usual way......

Yawn ..
Are you ever going to join the rest of us in the 21st Century?????
Or are you going to ignore 'the facts' and forever dredge up rumours about what may or may nor have happened 40+ years ago?
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24 Jul 08, 1:23 AM
nortyboy
UK, 12 mths
Master_Craftsman wrote:

nortyboy wrote:
Whats it like to have a rolemodel as a blackshirt?
I don't.

nortyboy wrote:
You simply ignore the facts and pick one tiny part of what she says .
I didn't.

nortyboy wrote:
Still i am sure you will carry on in the usual way......

As I am quite sure you will until, eventually, nobody will respond to anything you post.
Check your own posts, you keep responding dont you? lmao

24 Jul 08, 1:24 AM
Master_Craftsman
UK, 2 mths
nortyboy wrote:
... the usual nonsense.

Please see http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/boards/activism...

24 Jul 08, 1:27 AM
nortyboy
UK, 12 mths
strictlynormal wrote:

nortyboy wrote:
Whats it like to have a rolemodel as a blackshirt?You simply ignore the facts and pick one tiny part of what she says .
Still i am sure you will carry on in the usual way......

Yawn ..
Are you ever going to join the rest of us in the 21st Century?????
Or are you going to ignore 'the facts' and forever dredge up rumours about what may or may nor have happened 40+ years ago?

I didnt dredge anything up.Pinkglitterbomb has given you the facts this time not me. I wont be joining you anywhere,i am far too nice to be seen with you in any century!

24 Jul 08, 1:27 AM
Plinth_For_Her_Feet
UK, 6 yrs
Master Craftsman and the rest of you lot. Has ANYONE suggested that the gutter press have a right to "out" the sexual proclivities or pecadillos of anyone with odious political leanings?
I've just read right through all the Moseley threads, and the answer is "no".
Has anyone suggested that such people should not have the same legal protection as everyone else. Again the answer is "no".
So what point are you making?
It was suggested that we should all be thankful to Max Moseley for the "positive publicity" his case against the News of the Screws (a personal action not directly concerned with anyones freedom but Moseley's) has given to the world at large of BDSM.
It has been argued that the impression given to the general public of BDSM as a world populated by known former (and possibly current) fascist sympathisers getting their rocks off on holocaust re-enactment is not a positive one that any of us should celebrate or wish to be associated with - a direct argument against the OP's premise. So much for all this crap about threads being "hijacked".
So go on, what is your justification for all this personal bile against anyone who has supported this view?
Just what axe have you got to grind?
I AM THE GOD OF HELL-FIRE!.....but its my lunch break right now

24 Jul 08, 1:35 AM
nortyboy
UK, 12 mths
Plinth_For_Her_Feet wrote:
Master Craftsman and the rest of you lot. Has ANYONE suggested that the gutter press have a right to "out" the sexual proclivities or pecadillos of anyone with odious political leanings?
I've just read right through all the Moseley threads, and the answer is "no".
Has anyone suggested that such people should not have the same legal protection as everyone else. Again the answer is "no".
So what point are you making?
It was suggested that we should all be thankful to Max Moseley for the "positive publicity" his case against the News of the Screws (a personal action not directly concerned with anyones freedom but Moseley's) has given to the world at large of BDSM.
It has been argued that the impression given to the general public of BDSM as a world populated by known former (and possibly current) fascist sympathisers getting their rocks off on holocaust re-enactment is not a positive one that any of us should celebrate or wish to be associated with - a direct argument against the OP's premise. So much for all this crap about threads being "hijacked".
So go on, what is your justification for all this personal bile against anyone who has supported this view?
Just what axe have you got to grind?
Spot on

24 Jul 08, 1:37 AM
nortyboy
UK, 12 mths
Master_Craftsman wrote:

nortyboy wrote:
... the usual nonsense.

Please see http://www.informedconsent.co.uk/boards/activism...
By the way dont compare jewish people who disagree with you to jewish criminals like Dutch Schultz. I found that racist .

24 Jul 08, 1:40 AM
nortyboy
UK, 12 mths
Master_Craftsman wrote:

nortyboy wrote:
Check your own posts, you keep responding dont you? lmao
Not any more.
But thank you for having confirmed that you post only to attract attention to yourself, or to try to irritate others.

Of course noone is allowed to disagree with you cos you might be a tiny bit wrong are they?

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